Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
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It's like it morning too, traffic queueing up Green Lane/Brookfield Avenue, etc before 8.00am
Guest 667- Registered: 6 Apr 2008
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While the A2 to the docks is down to the bad weather and shipping delays, the problems through the town are down to bad management by Highways & KCC in doing this work along Barton Road..
Why do they need to do the work along Barton Road in the first place the path was wide enough as it was and the section of the road they resurfaced yesterday was only resurfaced some five or six years ago. Highways and KCC say they are strapped for money yet they wast thousands on this project..
Why are they doing it during peak hours ( before 9.30am & between 4pm -6pm) when there are four schools in the area and it is the main route for people to get to work.
Yes road works have to be carried out and they do cause road congestion but these works are not a priority when there are thousands of pot holes to be repaired all round Kent let alone Dover.
When I spoke to highways about the river wall leaking at the Crabble Corn Mill caused by heavy traffic, their reply was it was not their problem and even if it was they did not have funds to do such work. No but they have funds to waste on widening a footpath.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 5,983
Well said Harry.Some one at Maidstone needs their ear bent.
Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
- Posts: 1,031
I'm not sure about this, but as it's a cycle path does the money come from central funds via Sustrans rather than KCC funds?
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I think so Ray.
Guest 667- Registered: 6 Apr 2008
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What ever, still a waste of money and still badly organised bringing the complete Town to a stand still during peak times. I am retired but people need to get to and from work and school and no thought has been given to that at all.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
the a20 snargate street was virtuly at a standstill,evan though taps was in operation.
Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,387
Announced in the paperwork by George Osborne was
£providing up to £250 million for a major new permanent lorry park to increase resilience in Kent, by taking pressure off the roads in the event of Operation Stack. The government will consult on a preferred site at Stanford and other alternatives shortly
Karlos- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
The next stage will be where it is to be sited, wait for the cries of "not in my back yard".
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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all ready started howard,
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Irrespective of where the lorry park will be how can truckers be forced to use it? The ones from Eastern Europe would not be able to afford the charge even if they wanted to stay there.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
probably escorted back by police,
Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
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It's to replace Stack, so they'll have to use it I think.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The next question is what happens if someone refuses to pay? I think in most European countries the truck would be impounded but usually our police etc prefer a quiet life and let things go.
Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
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I've read somewhere that check-in for lorries would be moved to the parking area, so they would all have to go there then be released when their ferry space becomes available.
Ironic that Kevin Bown from Highways England in that report is the same guy who in a meeting with local councillors a couple of years ago insisted that closing laybys and turning off lights on the A2 bypass wouldn't cause any problems as there was plenty of capacity for lorries elsewhere, and that the 12.5% expected increase in RTC injuries during darkness was acceptable (it was 3 times that level in the independent risk assessment study that I could only obtain by FOI request).
Guest 1621- Registered: 17 Dec 2015
- Posts: 32
I'm pretty certain most freight to ferry logistics can be dealt with by a smartphone app or cheap device. Satellite navigation that also communicates from vehicle to base, would be able to assign a destination time and boarding slot, and advise the driver to slow down or wait somewhere if needed. It obviously doesn't deal with local vehicles, and they would need somewhere to wait, but the majority of holding traffic would occur across the UK and not build up as rapidly near the port.
"All is flux, nothing stays still." - Heraclitus of Ephesus
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Welcome to the forum Ian, good to see a new member posting on different subjects straight away. Many join and are online every day and never ever post anything.
Guest 1621- Registered: 17 Dec 2015
- Posts: 32
Thanks Howard. It's nice to be part of an active and interesting forum. Can't wait to be a resident in the area (early Jan).
"All is flux, nothing stays still." - Heraclitus of Ephesus