Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Is the problem one of habit or habitat?
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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andy
i think it is now accepted so people do not take much notice unless one turns nasty, dover actually has less of this problem than most other towns.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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Mixed views here
those able to work should be made to do so, or have benefits reduced to nil
but if we take david's view where would this stop?
Someone that wears a yellow tie????
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Keith s you old Tory!
those able to work should be made to do so, or have benefits reduced to nil
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
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Work doing what exactly?
Show people the real jobs and most (I accept not all) will take them
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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David, post 16 does not belong on the Forum!
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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alex,do you have a problem with #16 by any chance.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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alex
I have to disagree on this one, we are a members club and members should be able to say anything they wont to regarding non members or organisation
I don't think personal attacks or ridicule on members should be tolerated
Tom has a right to his liberal hand ringing approach, and Davie has the right to hang them
We all have a drink and the comments can become hot, but a forum needs freedom and different views
I am personally thankful I do not have these street drinkers' problems
But thinking about it, I work an average of 50 to 55 hour a week, who's the fool
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Keith, Davie does not have any such right.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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oh yes he does alexander
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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David has as much right to his opinion as you do Alexander, this forum is full of daft ideas at times.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Jan
you are correct
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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The forum is like a band Alex, an orchestra even. Some wood wind up and others woodwind down.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Oh no he does not, Keith.
This had nothing to do with an opinion, Jan.
I understood Keith B's post as referring to a right that has nothing to do with an opinion.
And such is my answer to it. In fact, David's post was not presented as an opinion.
And even if it was, it wouldn't belong here.
We all have the right to live, and no-one has the right to take this right away from us.
This law goes for everyone, and there is no exception.
There is no one mortal person who is or can be above the Law.
Simon Crowley- Registered: 4 Oct 2012
- Posts: 357
Please Alexander, get over yourself!
Everyone has opinions, and we don't all agree with each other, not even your opinions are universally welcomed!
Every town has drunks. When ours were in Pencester we moaned. Why are they I the market square? They are there because nice BBC and caring LCOG blackmailed our town into having the big screen. On market days they are not there. Why is that? It is because the stalls get it the way of their viewing when they sit on the blue seating.
Get rid of the screen and we do not get rid of the drunks, but they will at least move somewhere else and maybe that somewhere will be less conspicuous?
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Simon, there is a difference to your post and post 16.
I instinctively am adverse to that sort of speech there. Our society should have a no-tolerance approach to violent aggression, and there is plenty of that about. But the people referred to on this thread do not appear to be authors of such problems.
Simon Crowley- Registered: 4 Oct 2012
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Well he does have a way with words doesn't he! Uncomfortable subjects cause debate on all sides. Better to have a culture that allows the debate than to silence the contributors. Our society may well not go with David's idea, but I expect that he was making his point with dramatic emphasis to illustrate his position.
It seems that helping people like this is often a futile pastime, and we do not want them in our streets, so what to do?. Care in the community does not work. Many of the people on the bottle in the street are victims of state diktat and bad policy decisions. Being more liberal creates huge problems and although it is a humane goal, there are too many that fall through the gaps in the pavement. In the meantime, what to do?
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Welcome to the asylum, Simon.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Dover needs a class uplift,before we see it geting better.And sorry to say we are not going to see that the way the things are today.