Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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To see the logic of what Howard?
-The 'logic' of being able to bring about the regulation unilaterally? Irrespective of whether other's air-space was blocked to us?
-The 'logic' that the pilots themselves cannot see?
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the logic seems clear to me tom, the cobbled together people and the civil aviation authority are in favour so no need for another layer of bureaucracy.
Keith Sansum1
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Interesting thread
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Has Ukip's Nigel Farage finally grown up?
As Ukip finds itself on the cusp of a national breakthrough, Nigel Farage has one big problem -
his gaffe-strewn, squabbling party
Full story Independent.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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David Cameron 'must embrace Churchill's vision of United States of Europe'
The current generation of EU leaders, including David Cameron, must revive Winston Churchill's vision of a United States of Europe says José Manuel Barroso
Britain starts review of European Union budget ahead of possible referendum 21 Oct 2013
EU referendum may confuse voters 'not aware country is part of union' 29 Oct 2013
"Churchill rightly said in 1948: 'We must aim at nothing less than the Union of Europe as a whole, and we look forward with confidence to the day when the Union will be achieved'," he said.
"We need to resist vested interests and short-termism. We need to have the courage to think ahead and be able to project and shape change - that's what leadership is about."
Full story Telegraph.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Dover labour party celebrating the ranting of a conservative PM
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Ranting
Audere est facere.
Guest 943- Registered: 15 May 2013
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Reg is really a Europhile...He even quotes the E.U. dictator,Barroso, a man who is unelected in the same breath as our greatest elected wartime leader Churchill...I thought the Labour Party condemned Churchill as a anti working class warmonger especially when he sent the army to Wales to make striking miners return to work...I see Reg is a fan of David Cameron,a man who selling the NHS off bit by bit and who has managed to sell off the Royal Mail,a feat Maggie Thatcher would not even do..Cameron has destroyed our armed forces by the defence cuts and made our poorest people reliant on food banks..I see Reg is quoting from the Telegraph,the bible of the ruling class...Just proves the Dover Labour Party and David Camerons' Conservative Party are fixated on the same project driving down wages by importing poor workers from Eastern Europe to do low skilled work...Both Parties are the same,with the same agenda .The agenda is the E.U. is all powerful and any body who disagress with the E.U. project are ridiculed and sneered at..
Guest 1033- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
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I feel that churchill and cameron are cut from the same cloth, silver spooned upbringings, and cameron will have his title at the end of his career rather than from birth like churchill did. Propaganda, and history being written by the victors has more to with churchill's reputation than his actual ability. He 'left' government and one point after the disaster at Gallipoli don't forget, and he certainly was no friend of the working class.
After reading the answers to my earlier question about EU membership, I would vote to leave europe as it stands at the moment without any hesitation.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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And peter r
UKIP as soon as in county council having promised to sort the allowances out
spoke in favour of giving themselves more allowances,,,,,,,,,,
there all the same
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Brian Dixon
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and that's why the council tax is going up kieth.to pay for there expences.
Guest 943- Registered: 15 May 2013
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Good Morning Keith S and Brian D,I hope you are both well..Reference your enquiry,,,I understand the Labour County Councillors are still taking their allowances as well as the Tories/Libdims/Green Councillors...When the Labour Councillors refuse their allowances or reduce them..Please continue the debate further...I suggest you have a word with the Leader of the Labour group on KCC,Gordon Cowan..You know where he lives in Dover?? Ask Gordon to reduce his allowances..I am sure he will agree on this...I will be interested to hear his answer..
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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to pay for your housing benefit Brian
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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what housing benefit is that then kieth,am I missing out on something.must make enquires later.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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UKIP have some `soul` mates.......
Le Pen and Wilders forge plan to 'wreck' EU from within
Front National and Freedom party aim to exploit euroscepticism at European elections to block policymaking within parliament
Two of Europe's leading far-right populists struck a pact on Wednesdayto build a continental alliance to wreck the European parliament from within, and slay "the monster in Brussels".
Marine Le Pen, the leader of France's rightwing nationalist Front National, and Geert Wilders, the Dutch maverick anti-Islam campaigner, announced they were joining forces ahead of European parliament elections next year to seek to exploit the euroscepticism soaring across the EU after four years of austerity, and the financial and debt crisis.
Le Pen, who has predicted that the EU will collapse as did the Soviet Union, said the aim was to bypass Brussels and restore freedom to the nations and people of Europe.
The rise of populists on the right and the left, from Sweden to Greece, has worried the mainstream EU elites and is already shaping policy ahead of the May elections. At the top level of EU institutions in Brussels, there is talk of "populists, xenophobes, extremists, fascists" gaining around 30% of seats in the next parliament and using that platform to try to paralyse EU policy-making.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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the far right ukip then.thats ok for some.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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no keith, reg forgot to post this piece from the article.
"Nigel Farage of the UK Independence Party, which could possibly outperform the Conservatives in Britain in the European elections, has refused to joint the Wilders-Le Pen alliance, saying the party is a libertarian rather than right-wing movement. Mr Wilders hopes he will change his mind after the polls, when MEPs start forming into political blocs. Twenty-five MEPs from seven nations are needed to form a group."
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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jeremy
in your second paragraph you refer to "sudden and violent change", there may be a few problems but the trading bloc will remain simply because other member states need us to sell to. as you say the organisation has evolved over a long period of time but it will unravel itself fairly quickly in my view.
you mention self interest which sums up the european union, those benefitting financially love it until they reach the stage where they suddenly have to start paying in, a classic example was ireland with their "celtid tiger" economy. people loved it until they realised that the handouts would stop.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Doing a `Howard`here ...........
'The first cracks in the glass ceiling': EU votes to impose legal quotas for women in the boardroom
Justice Commissioner, Viviane Reding, hails breakthrough, but critics question whether compulsory targets are the best way forward
The EU Justice Commissioner, Viviane Reding, hailed "the first cracks in the glass ceiling" but critics question whether compulsory targets are the best way for women to finally smash through, and Britain is expected to oppose the new rules.
Dismayed by figures showing that men make up more than 85 per cent of non-executive board members in the Europe Union, Ms Reding last year proposed mandatory quotas to boost the representation of women at high levels of business.
Her plans to redress the boardroom imbalance by requiring large, listed companies to give 40 per cent of non-executive board seats to women by 2020 provoked criticism in some countries, with British officials arguing that such policy matters were best left up to national governments.
Full story Independent.
Jan Higgins
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I dislike this kind of thing, the best person for any job should always be chosen by ability not because they male, female, black, white, yellow, tall, short, fat or thin.
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