victor matcham- Registered: 5 Oct 2021
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ONCE we had the best politicians in the world ,but not now .

Captain Haddock
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Colin Brazier
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So many interventions on the floor of the House are pointless. Calls for an immediate ceasefire, and the like.
But this brilliant cri de coeur from Andrew Percy sets all that straight.
In one short speech, he encapsulates why Britain is nearing an ideological fork in the road.
https://x.com/ColinBrazierTV/status/1760694518221881478?s=20
The elephant in the room
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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Weird Granny Slater
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'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Keith Sansum1
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With a general election around the corner the local candidates appear very quiet
Hopefully Tapp at some point will speak on items that are not about his forces career
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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Keith you,are so negative.Come on be positive .
Gary39- Registered: 7 Jul 2017
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Totally agree with you Keith. Just because you were in services does not automatically make you good politician.
Sounds like the usual local politician for Dover all talk.
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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We are in this never ending holding pattern where the Government has given up trying to win the lection on policy, relying exclusively on division, hate and wokery nonsense. And for Labour, they are miles ahead in the polls by doing essentially nothing, so why tinker with that winning formula? Election can't come soon enough.
Keith Sansum1
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Sue
So let's look at this BE POSITIVE
Over the years Sue you and I worked on a number of projects without any political issues getting in the way
I listen to Tapp all I hear is about how wonderful he was in the forces (maybe he was who knows)
Or slagging off Elphicke.
Now , if I heard him campaigning on the many issues out there,
Bus cutbacks (having seen him at any meetings)
Promoting better transport system
To name but a few .
I have been across the board here (not just one party attack )
Starmer appears that he's going to do very little different than the present govt if he were elected in the first term.
I'm not so sure he would get a second term.
Labour was always saying what a broad church it was, now if you speak out you are suspended , a n d expelled .
It would be interesting to know just how many members have been expelled, or currently suspended .
Whether you like Cornyn or not, it's concerning that debate within the party is being closed down, even locally members have been expelled .
So move away from any views that might not be conservative is ok if you just want a luke warm Tory come Labour Govt.
Neil's out there and I hope will comment widely on these views , and if he has concerns on a Labour Govt (should it happen )
If all its about is to please the national press , who appear to hold a lot of influence on elections, and then in the first term do much the same as the present govt , why would you want to elect them.
Just on a local level , I found it healthy to speak to people every day in the ward I represented and had contacts throughout ward who helped to keep me in touch .
I hadn't seen a councillor since the last election, but I'm sure I will soon as the elections loom.
When you actually ask directly about local issues such as bus cutbacks
You find a couple of enthusiastic councillors , but when you ask if they will campaign on it should Labour be elected they suddenly say there's little councillors can do .
So why vote for them then !
I'm sure Labour will win the next general election , not because they are popular , as I think apathy will be the biggest winner, but because the Tories are so unpopular and often live in a bubble.
Sorry sue, you did ask. Lol
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Weird Granny Slater
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'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Captain Haddock
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Captain Haddock
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Captain Haddock
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Galloway's letter to traditional white Rochdale voters.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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A resounding win for Galloway. No surprise. From a Labour perspective, and as I've said previously, they've lost a large part of the Muslim vote, but not of course to the Tories. There will be a few seats like Rochdale where independents win through, but overall, it probably won't change anything.
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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"Make Rochdale great again". They can start by getting out of the National league.
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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For completeness, Labour did not stand in Rochdale of course, but the message is the same.
Jan Higgins
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The whole Rochdale situation just proves that the voters are fed up with so called 'serious' politics and politicians when they can pick someone like Galloway even if it is for only a few months.
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Keith Sansum1
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I thought Neil would stand behind his beloved leader even with the result !
The danger is that this result gets any kind of momentum .
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Weird Granny Slater
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Brilliant. If nothing else there'll be a few months' entertainment in HoC for sure (I might even tune in to UK media for the first time in years.) Looking forward to 650 tin-plated cut-outs getting folded over and their bloodless whining silenced by GG's lusty erudition and booming rhetoric.
Regarding the letters, I'm sure that targeted campaigning will come as a revelation to the corpse parties.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Button
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(Not my real name.)
Captain Haddock
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson