Health Bill...so far
- Brian Dixon
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18 January 2013 11:11210669and besides only one [1] responce car to cover from lyd to sandwich and all rural areas between 10pm untill 6am,two [2] coppers in one car.and you wonder why it takes forever for them to turn up. - 18 January 2013 11:21210672I'm not ridiculing anybody Keith, you don't want reform you want more money chucked at it.
The matron thing is sensible but saves no money, nor would changing the caterers and I don't believe you would sack thousands of bureaucrats. You're simply scratching the surface - Keith Sansum1
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18 January 2013 11:38210677The matron thing(as you call it) would make a great deal of difference to way it all operated.
Not sure what it is your after David, if your talking about sacking NHS workers that would have to be closely looked at
reform to make it run better yes
plus the many other things i stated earlierALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 18 January 2013 11:48210679The NHS is not costly, certainly not too costly. It is a nonsense to bawl about the amount of money that is spent upon it without regard to it's accomplishments.
A great deal of expense and effort could be saved by us all being fed from a tube. If all there was to life was carping on about saving a penny here and there, being fed via manufactured and centrally controlled mush would be the order of the day.
It is no more than resentment at paying NI, but having others benefit, that drives the arguments. As if any consumer is sure to be benefiting from the VAT each has to stump up.
The background, the arguments and the policies and the Parliamentary Bills that are used to denigrate the NHS and drive it to it's knees come from the insurance companies and ad-hoc medical services providers via their lobbyists, sweetened by donations.Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing. - 18 January 2013 11:50210680david
re 1051
you refer to reform but what about practicalities?
someone lies splattered on the pavement in true "tom and jerry" style how would the paramedics know whether the victim had fully paid up health insurance?
private health providers are a business responsible in law to their shareholders, emergency care is very difficult to build into their costings. - 18 January 2013 11:59210684Howard, it works perfectly well in virtually every other western country.
I'm not saying its easy but this is about reform.
Keith, you want to remove management, so do I, but they are NHS workers, I honestly don't believe you would sack them, no labour govt would.
I don't understand a word Tom says most of the time, its all riddles - 18 January 2013 12:14210686David there are other significant private sector health providers apart than BUPA.
Watty - 18 January 2013 12:31210689Yes I know.
The majority of the UK has been brought up with the NHS and can't envisage an alternative, sooner or later they'll have to. - 18 January 2013 13:24210697you talk about reform all the way through this david, yet 1068 suggests getting rid of it.
- 18 January 2013 13:26210699Correct Howard, unless its reformed it will become unsustainable. Its a reality, more people living longer, something has to give which is why reform is needed now.
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Oops! I forgot to add Drug Companies to the list of reform pushers...
" Delay in dementia diagnosis can prolong real life
SIR - Jeremy Hunt, the Health Secretary, says that the very early diagnosis of dementia is highly desirable (report, January 15). In my experience, it is better to delay diagnosis until the symptoms are apparent.
In 2000, my wife began to have memory problems, which we put down to the onset of old age. We continued to lead a busy, happy life as a retired couple, with visits to theatres, cinemas and concerts, as well as some pleasurable holidays.
In 2007, it became apparent that something was wrong, and my wife was diagnosed with dementia. At this stage, all the necessary help and support were provided.
Had her diagnosis taken place in 2000, it would have had a shattering effect on our lives, and the next seven years would have been very different.
I agree with Dr Iona Heath, who says that the only people likely to benefit from early diagnosis are drug companies, with increased sales of expensive medication, and politicians, who will be seen to be doing something about the problems of dementia, though it may be misguided.
Mr Hunt rather glibly says that action is needed to show that dementia, like cancer, is a word not a sentence. He is wrong. Many cancers are curable; dementia is not. You know that this terrible disease is inevitably going to take away all cognition and understanding. Medication may slow the process, but not for long and, when it ceases to have any effect and is withdrawn, there is a downward plunge from which there is no return. Until such time as a cure is found, a diagnosis of dementia is a life sentence.
There is a period in the early stages when I believe ignorance is bliss.
Michael Finnis
London W4
SIR - If Jeremy Hunt has discovered a drug that "can help stave off dementia for several years", he should patent it. A 2012 WHO report concluded: "No treatments are currently available to cure or even alter the progressive course of dementia."
Dr John Doherty
Stratford upon Avon, Warwickshire "
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/letters/9809433/Barrage-of-advantages.htmlIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing. - Keith Sansum1
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18 January 2013 23:36210822Sack managers david#blimey mate you realy have not been following my postingsALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 8 February 2013 21:40214519Parliamentary Select Committee blame Department of Works and Pensions for ``fitness to work`` fiasco.
Public Accounts Committee say 38 % overturn rate on Atos decisions have been at considerable cost to the Tax-payer and
is not acceptable.
Atos was paid £ 112.4 million last year..Atos is a product of trickle down from the nasty party.
Atos is surely a four letter word.....
Thought for the day.....There is enough taxpayers money to bail out PRIVATE banks,but not enough money to bail out OUR
#nhs hospitals ! Criminal corrupt government ? - 9 February 2013 00:24214525Reg, the State did not really use taxpayers' money to bail out private banks, but told the Bank of England to print the money electronically and bail out the banks, a few hundred billion pounds to be precise.
The money was printed out of thin air.
The NHS cannot be bailed out, as it has no Government bonds. The BoE can only "bail out" by printing money from thin air and buying Gov. bonds (and shares and things like that) from private companies such as banks.
The NHS has none of these.
Since becoming an acclaimed economist trouble-shooter yesterday night with a brilliant study on pension deficits, I can quite certainly inform you of the correctness of the above statement (the taxpayer cannot bailout anything, having no money to do so, only the BoE can, through printing it out of thin air).
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Kent First http://youtu.be/04F3mAP3fV4 Keep banging on http://youtu.be/qYCU_SKmkGQ - 9 February 2013 08:11214539A little learning is a dangerous thing;
Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring.
-Alexander Pope.
It's not as simple as that, Alex. The piper still has to be paid in the end, as QE injections eventually have to be reversed, they are not magic. Otherwise we should see rampant Zimbabwe-style hyper-inflation.I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson - 9 February 2013 08:21214541Nick Clegg's demand for NHS to be broken up and replaced with European-style insurance system
By DANIEL MARTIN
UPDATED: 08:15, 27 April 2010
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Nick Clegg has called for the NHS to be 'broken up' and said the Lib Dems should consider replacing it with a European-style insurance system.
In a little-noticed interview before he took over as leader, he said the party should consider a social insurance system to replace the present tax-funded Health Service.
It would mean healthcare would no longer be free at the point of use - with patients who can afford to pay more getting better care.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/election/article-1269045/General-Election-2010-Nick-Cleggs-demand-NHS-broken-up.html#ixzz2KNuXQUSk
The Lib / Dem agenda for the NHS. The infamous ``Orange Book``chapter which advocated the end of NHS. Author
the most tory Lib / Dem David Laws - 9 February 2013 09:412145491073
reg
atos were originally contracted by the reds, the nasty party has simply taken things a few steps further. - 9 February 2013 17:57214594The NHS is funded by the taxpayer.
If we follow up on Reg's post: "with patients who can afford to pay more getting better care", it would be the equivalent to a wealth tax for the financially better-off when they access NHS services.
Or it could mean the financially better-off pay more, but receive better care than the others.
Which is the case, can anyone illuminate here?Chanters, Drums and Drones Potty Time http://youtu.be/99fMqpjnXYA
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Kent First http://youtu.be/04F3mAP3fV4 Keep banging on http://youtu.be/qYCU_SKmkGQ - Keith Sansum1
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9 February 2013 23:32214643The lib dems cleggy move is not what is requiredALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 10 February 2013 00:21214648As long as we don't get a 2-tier NHS service.Chanters, Drums and Drones Potty Time http://youtu.be/99fMqpjnXYA
Rule Britannia!
Kent First http://youtu.be/04F3mAP3fV4 Keep banging on http://youtu.be/qYCU_SKmkGQ