Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Defection mars Lib / Dems`fight for Eastleigh...........
The Lib Dems' by-election campaign in Eastleigh was overshadowed yesterday when a former constituency chairman and NHS chief defected to a party campaigning against the Government's health reforms.
Dr Graham Winyard, ex-chairman of Winchester Lib Dems, the next-door seat to Eastleigh, accused Nick Clegg's party of betraying the NHS by backing the shake-up of the service, as he signed up to the National Health Action party. The NHA, which plans to field candidates in as many seats as possible in 2015, is to challenge the Lib Dems and Conservatives in Eastleigh with its candidate, a doctor and former Navy medical officer, Iain Maclennan. The Lib Dems selected a local councillor, Mike Thornton, as their candidate last night.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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@RTaylor_MEP Did you read Bill? Expert legal & health analysis shows NHS is being abolished
http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.d1695?
ath_user=nhsjtomlinson004&ath_ttok=%253CTYm%252F36NugSNoD5BSWA%253E ... LibDems voted for it
Keith Sansum1
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The eastliegh bye election is seeing things develope very quickly
cleggy losing support
chance of a Doctor winning the seat?
one off in protest?
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Brian Dixon
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kieth,dr who.

howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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this is the perfect scenario for an upset and the sawbones getting in, everyone hates the blues and the good work the yellows have done there over the years has been tainted by huhne.
we had that quack win in kidderminster so there is a precedent, a protest but nothing else - the other 600 odd mp's will see to that.
Keith Sansum1
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An upset is on the cards
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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The hypocrisy of government ministers knows no bounds.
The Foreign Secretary William Hague is to join a mass protest against NHS cuts in May, the Sun reveals today.
No doubt the move will also raise speculation that he was among the three cabinet ministers who raised their concerns via ConservativeHome of the NHS Bill.
Hague says he is against plans to move inpatient paediatric care to James Cook University Hospital — a modern 1,010-bed unit 22 miles away in Middlesbrough.
This would mean the maternity unit at Friarage, a 230-bed district hospital, would only be available for straightforward births. Mr Hague has warned that some young families and pregnant women living in the moors would face journeys of up to 60 miles for specialist treatment.
Guess what - if you force NHS trusts to save money then they have to close hospital units.
Every hospital or unit closure will now be (rightly) associated with the NHS Bill.
Meanwhile, the Daily Mail has also stepped up its reporting on the NHS.
In a long article a writer compares her treatment on the NHS and in an American hospital. Her conclusion?
The NHS was not free to me because I have not lived in Britain for so long. I have yet to receive the bill, but the published cost of a gall bladder removal by laparoscopy is around £3,000 in the UK, so I am expecting a similar charge for my appendectomy in London.
But no one was rushing to get my signature on the dotted line, unlike in LA. A pleasant lady turned up with a form giving my insurance details, which I could sign at my leisure on the day I left the Chelsea and Westminster.
Of course, for most people reading this article there would be nothing to pay. So, next time you hear an NHS horror story, remember the other side of the coin.
The NHS may have its faults but, rather like having surgery itself, it really is so much better than the alternative.
Andrew Lansley is in deep, deep trouble.
Update: Alex Andreou has an excellent video of David Cameron sounding a very different note on the NHS than now.
Keith Sansum1
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lets get to see thios video reg
of course he talks the talk
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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It's working. It looks like Jeremy Hunt is already feeling the pressure of our huge, people-powered opposition to his NHS privatisation plot. The Telegraph is reporting that "an outcry from medical groups, MPs and campaigners against privatisation in the NHS has forced a re-think". [1]
And that's hardly surprising - 130,000 of us signed the petition against the changes in just 24 hours. Thank you. But we haven't won yet. Over the next few hours, Hunt will be deciding whether or not he can hold out in the face of a public outcry. Now we need to ramp up the pressure by making sure the petition continues to grow fast.
Can you help keep the pressure on Jeremy Hunt by sharing the petition with your friends and family? Please press forward on this email and ask them to click here to sign:
https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/nhs-section75 Keith Sansum1
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well well
looks like public pressure is working
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Courtesy Guardian....
Doctors cry foul at NHS 'privatisation by stealth'
Leaked letter from top medical body reveals contract fears, putting health minister Lord Howe under pressure to rewrite rules
Professor Terence Stephenson Photograph: Chris George for the Observer
Britain's leading medical body has expressed grave concern that the government is planning to privatise large sections of the
NHS by stealth - in breach of previous promises to doctors to limit the role of the private sector.
In an explosive letter to the health minister Lord Howe, leaked to the Observer, the Academy of Medical Royal Colleges says
that ministers appear to have reneged on previous agreements with the profession, by attempting to force through parliament
new rules that would greatly expand the role of private operators across the NHS.
Keith Sansum1
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The NHS is safe in tory hands
doesn't look like it
nor can they be truthful with there real agenda
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Courtesy BBC...........
NHS 'privatisation' reform 'could place people in danger'
Prof Stephenson said the NHS risks becoming less joined up, if more private firms are brought in
Continue reading the main story
Exposing more of the NHS to private competition could cause a "dangerous" fragmentation of health services in England , the chairman of the Academy of Royal Medical Colleges has said.
Prof Terence Stephenson said patients could be "in danger from complications" if the NHS is not "joined up".
He has written to health minister Lord Howe to request an urgent meeting.
New rules concerning the role of private firms are due to pass through the Lords on Wednesday.
Campaigners are calling for MPs to debate the changes, and throw them out.
The rules - which are being considered by peers, not MPs - are part of the government's radical Health and Social Care Act, which aims to reorganise the NHS in England.
Keith Sansum1
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Not just ordinary people saying it
also proffessor
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Courtesy Guardian...........
With a broken promise, the government has handed the NHS over to the market
Reassurances on clinicians and local people controlling how services are commissioned look likely to be overturned
'New regulations make it easier for staff to be transferred from the public to the private sector.' Photograph: Christopher
The NHS needs to be reformed to remain true to its founding principles; the question is how. International evidence suggests
that increasing marketisation and privatisation of healthcare services leads to greater expenditure, greater variations in care,
reduced access to services, and erosion of professional standards. On that basis, the reforms have been heading in the wrong
direction for a long time, with all the major political parties supporting policies that increase the role of the private sector in the
NHS.
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Courtesy Independent..........
Government announces it`s latest `U` turn on competition regulations in NHS.
In an eleventh hour reversal, ministers withdrew controversial regulations governing competition in the NHS in what Labour described as a "humiliating u-turn."
Four weeks before major reform of the NHS is due to take effect, placing GPs in charge of over half the £100 billion budget, the rules on contracting with the private sector will now be re-written.
The climbdown, announced by Norman Lamb, the Liberal Democrat health minister, was hailed as a victory by campaigners who have opposed increased private involvement in the NHS.
Fears about privatisation have been at the centre of the dispute over the reforms throughout the passage of the Health and Social Care Act, which became law last year.
Regulations published three weeks ago governing how the Act should be implemented from April 1 were greeted with dismay. They run to just 12 pages but critics said they would open up many more services to competition from private companies and would lead to fragmentation of the service.
Keith Sansum1
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Does this cobbled together govt realy know what it's doing?
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Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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I thought you'd retired that particular cliche Keith and had concentrated on "the mouse".
Like bumping into an old friend

Keith Sansum1
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friend David????
thankyou lol
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