Guest 756- Registered: 6 Jun 2012
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My neighbour has two chikdren under three, a boy and a girl but is only entitled to a two bed property. She will obviously have to move as the children grow. Why not give them a three bed and by doing so reduce the compitition for smaller homes?
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Garry Howard is correct its now Cllr Sue Chandler
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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This is haw politics can drastically effect your life
Every body needs to be political it's your life there playing with.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Yet another of many ill-conceived policies...................many of the previous being one of many `U`turns........!!!!!!!!
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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Did anyone watch How to get a Council House on TV over the last few weeks?
It was a real eye opener, a documentary highlighting how these cuts are affecting our council departments.
If I was to repeat on here some of the facts that are contained in this programme, many would believe I was telling lies.
One from the 3rd episode was how councils throughout the country are paying private landlords an incentive, of up to £2000 to take on vullnerable tennants looking for a quick move.
"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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yes iv been watching it garyc
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Courtesy Independent....
Tenants may beat 'bedroom tax' with new bathrooms
Hundreds of people who could fall victim to the "bedroom tax" are to benefit from new plans
to convert spare bedrooms into bathrooms.
The move, by the social landlord Magenta Living, the largest registered provider of social
housing in the Wirral, is expected to affect around 200 homes initially.
The former Welfare minister Frank Field, the Labour MP for Birkenhead who has called on people
to "brick up" their doors and "knock down the walls" to avoid paying the tax, welcomed the move
: "The bedroom tax is iniquitous and Magenta is clearly undertaking this review with tenants in mind
and I think they need to be applauded."
He added: "I hope this encourages others to follow suit." Mr Field described the bedroom tax as "the
most vicious" form of taxation since the poll tax, and called on the Government to "abandon this
wicked measure".
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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What would be the point of that - you'd still lose the bedroom. Who pays for the new bathrooms ? The tax-payer of course.
The worst part if this system, is the lack of flexibility. How can you reduce people's benefit because they won't move to a smaller home, if you don't have any ?
Roger
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Exactly roger
And the sad thing is ,1,and 2 bedroom old and disabled peoples bungalows are cheap as chips to build, if you don't us the big monopoly price fixing building companies
Councils should have access to the cheap government printed money that's been dished out to the banks
Then they should hire building managers to over see the construction on the true building Budgets
The rents combing back and the money saved on the rip of inflated housing benefits scam ,should brake even and even return a small profit .
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Pensioners are not affected by this Keith, just people of working age.
Many people of working age, in private rented housing, could afford a mortgage (in many cases) but it's the deposit that they can't raise, so have to rent instead.
Surely the greatest aspiration is to own your own home - isn't it ? For people without the ability to get a job or on so little money, their aspiration, is paying the bills and food.
Roger
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Across the board price fixing of the housing new build market is over inflating prices
They will sit on the land banks to holed the price
Only the big companies get access to the finance and materials deals,
And the easy planning decisions.
The down sizing of the older population to affordable bungalows would help maters would it not?
Guest 756- Registered: 6 Jun 2012
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Home ownership in France is not a prority and seems to lead to a more relaxed view on economic mobility i.e. a ready acceptance to move to where work is avaliable.
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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Reg #227
I don't agree that this is a solution, maybe for a very few but not the majority.
Firstly, you would need to obtain premising from landlord, that would not be always forthcoming.
Secondly, it is this Governments interpretation of un occupied bedroom that is in question.
I.E. 1000's of so called un-occupied bedrooms are used on a regular basis, for carers and for other family members.
Bricking up my bedroom would not benefit me in any way.
"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
eventually they will have to back track on this one as it is simply not workable and more importantly to politicos a vote loser.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Agree.....# 224....Yet another of many ill-conceived policies...................many of the previous
being one of many `U`turns........!!!!!!!! -
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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UN housing expert's call to axe bedroom tax 'a disgrace' - senior Tory
Party chairman Grant Shapps asks UN secretary general for apology and accuses Raquel Rolnik of having an 'agenda'
"The Tory party chairman, Grant Shapps, has described as an absolute disgrace a call from the United Nations for the government to scrap the so-called bedroom tax .
Accusing Raquel Rolnik, the UN special rapporteur on housing, of having an "agenda", Shapps said he had written to the UN secretary general, Ban Ki-moon, demanding an apology and an explanation of Rolnik's findings.
The UN investigator had not been invited to Britain by ministers, and was biased, Shapp said.
"It is completely wrong and an abuse of the process for somebody to come over, to fail to meet with government ministers, to fail to meet with the department responsible, to produce a press release two weeks after coming, even though the report is not due out until next spring, and even to fail to refer to the policy properly throughout the report.
"That is why I am writing to the secretary general today to ask for an apology and an investigation as to how this came about," Shapps told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.
However, the Department for Communities and Local Government confirmed that Rolnik had met Eric Pickles, the secretary of state. She also met council officials in Glasgow.
Rolnik recommended the abolition of the bedroom tax - which the government calls the spare room subsidy - after hearing "shocking" accounts of how the policy was affecting vulnerable citizens during a visit to the UK..."
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/sep/11/un-housing-bedroom-tax-absolute-disgrace Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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she certainly put her foot in it considering her own country has 50 million people living in poor conditions including favellas and shanty towns.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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This bed room tax should be stopped until the mass building of 1 and 2 bed bungalows.
Older people want to down sizes to bungalows with a small garden
The conservatives could have capitalized on this one if they had got it right, instead it all come back on them as the nasty party
They never learn do they Barry ?
The party's full of barristers and accountant,
There just not very good a running a country ,living on a different planet ,and all that
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Exclusive: 50,000 people are facing eviction over bedroom tax
One council tenant in three has been pushed into rent arrears since April, while tens of thousands in
housing association properties are also affected
More than 50,000 people affected by the so-called bedroom tax have fallen behind on rent and face
eviction, figures given to The Independent show.
The statistics reveal the scale of debt created by the Government's under-occupancy charge, as
one council house tenant in three has been pushed into rent arrears since it was introduced in April.
Figures provided by 114 local authorities across Britain after Freedom of Information (FoI) requests
by the campaign group False Economy show the impact of the bedroom tax over its first four months
. The total number of affected council tenants across Britain is likely to be much higher than the 50,000
recorded in the sample of local authorities that responded to the FoI.
At least another 30,000 people living in housing association properties have also fallen behind on
rent payments since the bedroom tax came in, with potentially tens of thousands more also affected,
according to separate research by the National Housing Federation
Full story Independent..