Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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14 August 2010
12:3365471Howard, I answered your question stating that at the next elections, the government will stand to loose. To 'get down from the car' means, here, loosing the election and leaving government. Obviously, I am for UKIP.
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14 August 2010
15:1965479Howard, this is funny: if you type: Charlie Elphiske (the spelling was unintentional at the time) on Yahoo, one only result will come up, with a link to Dover Forum. The result is a phrase of mine written to Howard some time back!

Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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14 August 2010
16:3165483I have told you of their webb site and if you woud like their email address I can also do that for you ,and you can then ask them yourself where and what they are doing at any one time.
14 August 2010
19:0065496Howard, ChrisP may be devoted to DTC but he doesn't spend every waking minute there, so why should he expect MEP's to do the same in Europe? You didn't complain about dear old Gwyn not being at the HoP every day either, so it's a bit of double standards from you and Chris methinks.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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14 August 2010
19:2065498have you deliberately misread my post sid?
14 August 2010
20:2665504Probably!

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17 August 2010
09:3065835UKIP now need anew leader I am told,this is no big deal at all, Lord Pearson is getind older like all of us ,so we will be looking long term at a younger person, I do not think that Mr Nigel Farage is that person ,he might stand in till we in the party have a election for a new leader,we have our UKIP Conference in Sept at Torquay so will know more after that but will keep you posted on the site but not any other ones.
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17 August 2010
12:1865864I now have the Party Chairman report on Lord Pearson.
The Statement from the Party Chairman.
It has been announced today that Lord Pearson of Rannoch is to stand down as Leader of the UK INDEPENDENCE party.
The Party would like to thank Lord Pearson for all the hard work and endeavour during his time as party leader.Lord Pearson took on the ladership six months before the General Election and guided the party to a 50%increase in our share or the vote.
Loard Pearson will REMAIN a UK Independence party peer and will continue to both represent the party in the house of Lords and raise funds for the cause.
On a personal note,I am saddened to see a party leader stand down, whose vision to restructure and professionalise the party I share. However,I am pleased that Lord Pearson will carry on working tirelessly to help this country extricate itself from the European Union.
The National Executive Committee will meet as soobn as possible to appoint an interim leader before a leadership election will be held following the Annual Party Conference,which will take place in Torquary from the 2-4 September 2010.
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17 August 2010
13:2865879News at one and it looke like the new leader is already to take up his new post but we will have to vote first on it.And the reds are still waiting.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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17 August 2010
13:3165881the reds and blues systems always seem long and drawn out to me.
so who is the new chap then vic?
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17 August 2010
14:0065891it is the D/Leader he will move up one place if he gets voted in And I think he will .
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17 August 2010
15:2465900I now have the full Leadership Resignation Statement from Lord Pearson of Rannnoch done by him and you will only read it on the Dover Forum.It will be done by me later,I am just off to the Hospital about my knee so it will be done after I come back from seeing Dover play tonight.
20 August 2010
11:0766299Vic,
Marek is simply just taunting us with his "questions" and has done so for some time now. He must spend a fair amount of time searching for material in order just to denigrate UKIP.
The proof in this is that he says that he is " anti politics having become totally cheesed off by all the ill educated, money grabbing, lying, two faced politicians. " That`s fair enough, but if he really believes that why then do we not see any detremental comments from him regarding the other parties, especially as you have said, we haven`t even got any MP`s?
I`m afraid that in answering his questions we`re only encouraging him, and as he`s a committed socialist europhile ( the worst possible combination ) I really don`t feel inclined to waste my time.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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20 August 2010
11:5866307john
i think you are being unfair in your assessment, many of us go through the policies of all parties and inevitably find fault with some in each manifesto.
any criticism that your party gets gives you the opportunity to reply.
bearing in mind how many people read this forum, you are getting a lot of air time and opportunity for you to make a pitch to uncommitted voters.
they do say that any publicity is good.
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20 August 2010
12:1866309Howard I must agree with you UKIP do very well on the Doverforum.

20 August 2010
13:4166317Howard, I appreciate what you are saying, but you have just really backed up the point that I`m trying to make regarding Marek`s one sided posts.
You say " many of us go through the policies of all parties and inevitably find fault with some in each manifesto " which is my point entirely. Marek doesn`t go through any other parties manifestos and he doesn`t find fault in ANY others apart from UKIP`s. That is why I`ve said that he should be honest and post his "questions" under a different thread instead of posting under "UKIP 2" in order to give his utterances some sence of credibility.
I would then be happy to attempt to answer them.
I can take and deal with genuine criticism of UKIP all day long, but not when the questions are disguised and continuously made in order just to have a dig at our particular party.
As you will be aware, in the past, Sid, Barry and others have thrown a number of queries at us, which is fine, but they`ve never felt the need to open a new thread specifically just to denigrate UKIP.
I hope that I`m not coming over as being petty, but personally I do see this issue as a matter of principal.
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20 August 2010
14:1566321For any interested, UKIP's policy concerning employment in our Country is to assure work for British people, this being the constitutional reason why we have a Government, as well as seeing to many other interests of the British People.
Our Constitution does not oblige nor require the Government to put other people's private interests in front of the interests of the British People in our very own Country. The e.u. constitution is against the British Constitution, and I dearly hope that at the next elections, both Council and General, the people will accept this truth and vote accordingly!
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20 August 2010
14:1866322A few days ago, the Daily Expresses revealed that since the Tories got in, 77% of new jobs in Britain went to foreign-born people. The number of British-born workers is down on a whole, that of foreign workers is up by a large number. This cannot be right!
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20 August 2010
14:2066323I also believe that the number of people officially unemployed in Britain, about 2,5 million, is lower than the number of people who are really unemployed! The statistics probably do some covering up, as the people in Britain who are inactive workwise and yet are not in pension or at school, is over 8 million!
20 August 2010
16:2966330John, in fairness to Marek, he has lobbed some pretty big grenades at the new coalition and also the Conservatives in the run-up to the election. However now the Condems are proving all his and others misgivings wrong we are taking on the most vociferous group left to have a pop at, namely, UKIP.
At the endo f th day it is all pretty much friendly banter designed to rattle cages and expose weaknesses if there are any. I do it all the time to the commies, oops, socialists, well, the group that does nothing for those who vote for it on the basis they are all too dumb to realise it
Get my drift?.