Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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10 August 2010
19:4064808As you can read that a second page has been started about UKIP, I have asked the Dover Forum to close it down because it is not needed what is on it should have been put on this page. I am sorry to members of the forum that it happen.And I will not be posting on it again and I am asking that all that support us do the same.
10 August 2010
19:5564812Marek, in your post on the "other" UKIP thread, you`ve just proved that you have very little idea of how things actually work in the European Parliament.
I`m in the middle of getting dinner at the moment so can`t reply fully to your attack.
However, I would ask that if you think UKIP MEP`s are bad at sticking up for the UK`s interests, how well have your Labour chums actually done in the past umpteen years? ( I`m assuming you have socialist leanings )
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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10 August 2010
20:0464815john
to be fair to marek his post pointed out the committment of our glorious coalition governement by being very active in attending which suggests that the reds are not really bothered either way.
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10 August 2010
21:0564845I do not think the reds at this time care for anything bar geting a new leader in place .
Guest 643- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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10 August 2010
21:1164849I'm more of a reader than a poster these days but I felt I had to say that I am totally with Keith and Melissa on this one. I'm sick of this thread and get the impression it's more of an excuse to boost some peoples post count - I'll say no more
Well Keith and Mel - how about we start our own thread about anything not political? Let's lighten the tone and get some laughter going. Mel I love your sense of humour and your quick come backs - long may you post
Hows it going Keith?
There's always a little truth behind every "Just kidding", a little emotion behind every "I don't care" and a little pain behind every "I'm ok".
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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10 August 2010
21:1564852Jacqui, Thank you for your post if you are on about my post count, then sorry you are wrong on that one,but I am a UKIP member so I like to read and add to the UKIP page.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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10 August 2010
21:1564854vic
you are probably right about the reds, a new leader in september/october, another two months to get a team together then more time to develop a programme of policies.
they should be up and running about the time of the local elections next may.
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10 August 2010
21:2264861You are with me on this one Howard and I think they will hold the town seat again unless UKIP or the blues stand to.But there is talk that the blues are working with David H on this one. And also he will stand for the D.D.C.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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10 August 2010
21:2464864that surprises me vic, i thought that david h was retiring, it was mentioned on this forum some time back.
mind you they do say that a week is a long time in politics.
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10 August 2010
21:2764865I would not read into that much yet he might not stand for the town council but again he could be the next mayor would he turn that down?
10 August 2010
21:3564866Howard,
To be honest, I don`t intend to be fair to Marek at all whilst he is simply digging the dirt and trying to make political capital. Especially when he quotes from someone with their own political agenda.
I think, therefore, that I asked him a very valid question about the Labour Party, bearing in mind that he didn`t think that " fighting for the interests of British people " was something that UKIP MEP`s were very good at.
A bit like a Millwall supporter complaining that those who support Charlton Athletic are a bit rowdy, don`t you think!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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10 August 2010
21:4964874like that one john, you are clearly up on football culture.
11 August 2010
01:1864905It`s not very often that the words "Millwall" and "Culture" are linked together Howard!
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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11 August 2010
12:1464932Well providing I don't get personal attacks from sid, who flings about the word: racist, after making one repeat themselves umpteen dozen times (no doubt his special tactic) until the editors intervene because of ripetative postings, could I quote from Charlie Elphiske's public campaign, found on his Link, some phrases. I do believe Charlie was elected as MP on the basis of his manifesto, and therefore that the majority of people in Dover and Deal voted also for his stance concerning immigration.
Quote:
'We also know all too well that the Government (former gov.) does nothing about it and has lost control of our botders. here is the reality of the Government's disgraceful failure to keep our nation and borders safe and secure:
577,000 people came to Britain in 2007 - and net migration was 237,000.
The population has risen 1.8 million since 1997 thanks to immigration alone - There were 25,800 asylum applications in the 12 months to September 2008, a rise of 15% on the year before.
To cope with all this, some 65.000 new houses are needed each year, meaning even more concrete and congestion along with increasing pressure on our public services.
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11 August 2010
12:1664934So, Charlie does not make any distinction between e.u. and non e.u. immigrants, and is obviously not in favour of mass immigration.
i wil go on to quote Charlie on his issues on this thread, but would once more ask Sid to stop his personal attacks on me, I am not a racist, and the majority voted for an MP who is NOT in favour of mas-immigration, and I will NOt be bullied by Sid into shutting up for writing the wod: mass immigration. Because I won't!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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11 August 2010
12:2264936alexander
charlie knows very well that there will be no cap on migrants from the eu.
that figure for asykum seekers surprised me, most asylum seekers tended to be from eastern europe, then when their countries signed up they came here as of right.
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11 August 2010
12:3264939Howard, Charlie stated figures, he referred to migrants in general, this is part of his manifesto, and I believe that this is also what the majority in Dover and Deal voted for.
I do not need to prove my point further, I have already proven it, with reference to Charli's open link for any to view! What gov. does afterwards is eveidently NOT what Charlie campaigned for! I will keep in line with the principles of Democracy and will not give in to an imposed decision from gov. that has nothing to do with democratic manifestos and democratic election results.
Hence my statements on this UKIP thread! We of the UKIP stand for issues, one vital issue we stand for is also an important part of Charlie's manifesto, and I see that Charlie's view and ours of the UKIP are very similar cincerning mass-immigration, e.u. or not e.u.!
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12 August 2010
13:5065139Latest information reached me concerning British energy companies: British energy companies are being rapidly sold off to overses companies, over the last few years, and more are following. These are the big money-makers, so how Britain's economy will improve goes beyond immagintion! I think that some economists don't write about it because they don't know it, or haven't got an answer. But the papers do write it.
UKIP members don't tend to hide their head in the sand, and if something is gong wrong or doesn't make sense, the Party's policy is to recognise the problem, expose it, and find a solution, and change a wrong course to a right one!
12 August 2010
14:3465149I think the timescale for New Labour regenerating will be shorter if only because the Millicent Martin brothers are surely already planning their approach to running the party.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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12 August 2010
14:4665150alexander
i thought it was common knowledge that energy/utility companies are foreign owned.
i can only think of brutish gas being uk owned.