Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Bob Yes I have seen it. And will get back to it later . Thank you for your post.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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great to see a party leader here in dover, hats off to victor.
good to meet andy at last, we alwats seem to miss each other at events.
lord pearson came across as a down to earth type.
when shaking hands i mumbled something like "pleased to meet you", he came back with "can't think why".
apparently he took tea with posh barry later.
old school chums.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Thank you for that Howard,and yes he is down to earth person,and came well on TV last night,I am still going to try and get Mr Nigel Farage down before the next Locals next year,
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starting this weekend. I am going to download the full UKIP Manifesto from page one to the end,it wiil be all done by the big day,please give me your feedback as we go along there are some ten pages of it and it will have to be done at night as i am going to be out most of the day,I will be out about in the morning in the London Rd area for just afew hours.And on monday in the Westbury Rd area. .Thank YOU.

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Animal Wefare. UKIP believes all animals that share our planet deserve to be treated compassionately by humans and should be spared unnecessary suffering.
And I must say I agree with that100%.
You can download the full "Animal Welfare "policy from the "Policies"section of
www.ukip.org.
The post Office and Royal Mail.
UKIP regards the Royal Mail and our post office network as an essential part of the fabricof British life.and will fully support, improve and retain these services.
Again download full"Post Office and Royal Mail policy.
"Policies" section
www.ukip.org.
More later.
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Pubs&Smoking.
UIKP realises that the local pub is a unique part of British community life,but it is under serious thteat from supermarket price undercutting,brewery company indifference and the smoking ban.I think and I do not smoke that all pubs can have a smoking room and not stand like now outside for a smoke.
"PUbs and Smoking full policy on
www.ukip. org.
Small Business.
UKIP knows that small and medium-sized companies are the lifeblood of the UK economy and essential to new job creation,but are often overburdened by the state.
"Small Business policy on
www.ukip.org.
Defence.
Spend an extra 40% on defence annually, another 1%of GDP.
Expand the ARMY by 25%to 125,000 personnel and double the size of the T.A.
Restore the Royal Navy to 2001stength with three new aircraft carriers and nearly 70 other ships,at the same time guaranteeing the future of the Plymouth,Portsmouth and Rosyth bases.
Increase RAFcapability by buying more essential helicopters,transport aircraft and 50 extra JSF LightingAircraft. more later
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i must concur with posts 385/386 from victor.
i might even vote ukip, not mde up my mind yet, wont be the big two though.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Thank you Howard,
Strengthen our commitment to NATO,While withdrawing from Eu operations.
Reappraise our operations in Afghanistan to create a single,clear and achievable mission or seek to negotiate a withdrawal with our NATO partners,
Maintain Britain,s independent nuclear deterrent with existing Trident submarines and then replace them with four British-built submarines armed with USmissiles.
Cut MOD bureaucracy, which has one civil servant for every two military personnel.
Introduce better pay,conditions and medical care for the British Forces personnel and their familes.
I will add to that I think we should build new military Hospital,s and new military homes.
Over the years,successive governmentshave starved the British forces of money.
This has meant insufficient equipment ,overstretched resources and exessive tours of duty which can badly damage the fabric if family life.
UKIP has huge regard for our Armed Forces and the work they do.
YOU can download more "Defence " policy.www.ukip.org
Just to say I go along with this 100%. Thank you.
Coming next is the Healthcare and NHS.
You can now see that UKIP is no longer a one policy party about geting out of the E,U and you will see more of this as we go along.
Vic MATCHAM
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Nigel Farage on the BBC tv tonight and he again like always very good.
Anyway I have been out again this morning and if you have a look in Barrys blog you can read about it.
But tonight we are again looking into the UKIP Manifesto.
And it is about Immigration and&Asylum.
As a member of the EU,Britain has lost control of her borders.
Some 2.5 million immigrants have arrived sine 1997 and up to one million economic migrants live here illegally.
Former New Labour staff maintain that this policy has been a deliberate attempt to water down the British identity and buy votes.
Under the EU we cannot even expel foreign criminals if they come from a another EU coutry..
UKIP say end mass,uncontrolled immigration UKIP calls for a five -year freeze on immigration.
Regain control of UK borders.This can only be done by leaving the EU.
Entry for work purposes will be done on a temporary work permit visa only. for a designated time . also entry for non-work purposes again will be done by a tem/visa. and if they stay over the date on the visa it will be a criminal offence.
We would also engaged the UK borders Agency to 30.000that is triped to what it is today.
After the five year freeze any future immigration will be strictly controlled like Australia, Canada.
We would return all people found to be living illegally in the UK back to their own country.they would not get any amnesty.
We woul also require those living in the UK to abide by our laws ,
Such citizens will not be eligible for benefits.
Complete five years of a working resident before applying for British citizenship.
There is more to come on this but not tonight. Thank You .
How will UKIP deal with the massive debt this country has Vic ?
Mark, perhaps Vic will let me start on this one as he`s probably having a well earned rest after his lengthy leafleting activities!
I`m certainly no economist, but as I understand it in the first year of office we would cut public spending by at least fifty billion pounds.
We would save £45m. a day by getting out of the EU and our business would also save massive amounts in not having to implement EU red tape etc.
According to the Taxpayer`s Alliance, membership of the EU costs us around £120billion a year.
A large number of quangos would also be done away with.
That`s a start anyway!
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Okay, well could we have some of the spare cash to fund biomedical research into ME/CFS, please?
Seriously, there is insufficient funding for biomedical research into the causes of and the possible cures or ameliorations for ME/CFS, and insufficient training for medical professionals in this neurological disability.
There are more than 2½ times the number of ME/CFS sufferers in the UK than suffer from MS (a condition once also disbelieved). A 2006 enquiry into the unaddressed issues of research from a report in 2002 to the Chief Medical Officer stated that "The UK should take this opportunity to lead the way in encouraging biomedical research into the causes of CFS/ME."
How would UKIP help the UK lead in this way?
Hi Maggie, I think you`ve just hit the nail on the head!
This is just the type of thing that should and must be funded and it`s nothing short of a disgrace that this type of research is not properly supported. It just makes my blood boil when I see how much financial waste there is in this country that could be spent helping our own people to recover from various types of illness.
However, I would be somewhat biased on this as my own daughter has more or less only just recovered from an auto-immune disease that included bouts of CFS ( Chronic fatigue syndrome ). Although the hospital consultants told her that there was no cure I`ve more or less resolved her problems myself with a combnation of diet, nutrition, supplements and stress relief.
But in answer to your question, yes, I`m sure that UKIP would fully support this type of project.
Getting rid of hundreds of wasteful NHS managers/administrators would be a good start to freeing up some cash for this research, but some would call that an attack on the NHS..
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i wouldn't sid, the nhs should have administrative back up, not the high flyers with flash offices though.
do they still have bed managers?
surely the doctors should decide who needs to stay not a person in a nice suit.
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Thank you John for your posting and support and will see you in the morning.
Back to my posting on Immigration and Asylum.
(1)To avoid disappearances.asylum seekers will be held in secure and humane centres until applications are processed.
Existing asylum seekers who have had their application refused must leave the UK along with any dependants.
(2)Require all travellers to the UK to obtain a visa.
all no-work permit visa entrants to the UK will be required to have full health insurance ,those without it will be refused entry.
UKIP will crack down on bogus educational establishments.
There is a lot more to this policy and you can download it "Immigration and Asylum"from the policies section,
www.ukip.org. THANK YOU.
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UKIP.
(1) The rights of victims matter more than the rights and comfort of criminals.
(2)"Major reform is vital to retain and improve NHS healthcare services."
(3)"State education simply isn,t working.Standards are falling.
(4)The British welfare system has become ridiculously complicated".
(5)"UKIP"Was the first party to be sceptical about global warming claims"
(6)"We have a right to a reliable public and private transport system.
(7)Bureaucracy overrules democracy at every level,from Brussels to the town hall."
(8)"Small businesses are the lifeblood or the UK economy".
(9)"Major parties have ridden roughshod over concerns of rural people."
(10)The true cost of the EU is estimated at up to £120bn a year."
(11)"By leaving the EU, Britain will regain three essential freedoms."
(12)"The current tax code is more than 10.000pages long and requires simplification".
(13)As a member of the EU Britain has lost control of her borders.

I agree Howard. Not sure about bed managers, but that sounds like a luxury the NHS can ill afford.
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Vic states
1) The rights of victims matter more than the rights and comfort of criminals.
Please provide evidence of that statement Vic...We have a victims support unit,dedicated Police Officers and a Criminal Injuries Compensation Board...don't jump on the current bun band wagon but provide alternatives and how you would fund them?
(2)"Major reform is vital to retain and improve NHS healthcare services."
I agree... so take the NHS out of the political agenda and fund a committee that would oversee healthcare without interferance from any Govt.What does your party propose?
(3)"State education simply isn,t working.Standards are falling.
Untrue.Standards are rising but we , meaning the next generation,have to compete in the global market.So schools need to be under scrunity to ensure they are delivering the best possible service so that all kids from different financial backgrounds have the same opportunity.Look at the Tory front bench and see how many of those went to a comprehensive?They bought their education ..it should be free and available for all children so that they don't make the mistakes that we ,our parents and grandparents made.
(4)The British welfare system has become ridiculously complicated".
Agree so how would UKIP reform it? Details please.
(5)"UKIP"Was the first party to be sceptical about global warming claims"
So what? How long have UKIP been studying climate change and what evidence do you have to support your theories?
(6)"We have a right to a reliable public and private transport system.
If you think a private transport system would be of benefit ...you must be living in cloud cuckoo land.I recommend free transport for kids upto 18 yrs and anyone over the age of 60 plus anyone on the dole so they can get to the job centres and interviews.Do you think a private transport service would offer that type of facility?
(7)Bureaucracy overrules democracy at every level,from Brussels to the town hall."
How?
(8)"Small businesses are the lifeblood or the UK economy".
Correct. I agree so how would UKIP benefit those type of businesses?
(9)"Major parties have ridden roughshod over concerns of rural people."
Big deal!! It's happened for centuries..just look at the serfs etc what would your lot do to change this?
(10)The true cost of the EU is estimated at up to £120bn a year."
What would be the cost of us leaving the EU? Exports etc?
(11)"By leaving the EU, Britain will regain three essential freedoms."
What are the '3 Essential Freedoms'Explain
(12)"The current tax code is more than 10.000pages long and requires simplification".
Totally agree.I suppose thats why you have an unelected Lord as head of your party.Give me strength!!
(13)As a member of the EU Britain has lost control of her borders.
Bollocks..the reason we have 'lost' control of our borders is because Thatcher wanted to cut immigration staff so she scrapped embarkation control..whats the point of counting and controlling the number and entry of visitors if you don't count and check them out!!Please Vic I appreciate you are a bloody good welder but please don't ever try or preach to me about immigration control.
On closing,as always I wish you well.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Unfortunately we haven`t got a week or two to answer your time wasting questions. Please go and vote Limp-Dim or whoever you think suits your particular cause. If you`re at all serious, which you`re not, I daresay you can get the answers off the UKIP web site.