Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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alex,i cant see why you cant go,its worth a try.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Alexander, you are very welcome to come to the meeting.
Everybody, yourself included, is very busy. Your project will require tens of thousands plus hours and hours of research. The Town Team has neither, so unless or until you prepare a business plan there really is nothing to discuss
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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David, I've understood
Hence my reply!
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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I hope this isn't another poster going down the road of,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
my idea is great
then have loads of posts before saying,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,actually im not going to the meeting
its like the on going saga of not standing for councils again, and then changing his mind
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Keith, I've been presenting elements of a business plan here, but have stated from the start that such a project requires more general interest from the Community.
One person alone cannot be expected to present a fully-fledged business plan on something of this extent - in particular when it concerns share-participation and investing funds of investors.
The idea would have to be taken up at a wider level with input from others too as to how to go about it, as stated various times.
I'm not sure if David comprehended this
He speaks for the Town Team, and I'm not going to hang around arguing when the answer is already no!
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Alexander
Whilst David and I may disagree on a lot of things, he hasn't at any point rejected your plans, what he has said(if I understand correctly) is that the body he is part of is far to small for such a big project.
As Lesley says the idea is a good one, in reality would it get of the ground is a little more questionable.
Im sure that David would point you in the right direction of advisors on how to present a business plan etc
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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spot on keith, the plan de la alex is not right for the town team, he would be better raising the issue with charlie who has strong links at the palace of westminster.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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and others to approach could be grant funders who have advisors who could help
but maybe presenting the plan at that meeting is a starting point
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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I'll keep the Forum informed of any progress.
The outline project consists in assessing willingness among the local population to be employed on production sites for clothes and footwear.
To set up a training facility for induction and training, and find skilled people in the trade willing to participate in return for a salary.
Find production sites and purchase machinery and tools of the trade.
Find potential customers for the end product.
If this can all be assessed at paperwork level before any expenses are incurred, that would be satisfactory.
While a pair of shoes made in Dover would exceed in price the £5 Vic pays online, they should still be below the £55 - £85 that Made in India charge in Dover High Street.
And a pair of trousers should not cost more than the £10 - £25 that Made in China charge in Dover.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Incidentally, numerous tanneries in India and Bangladesh are known to dump their chemical waste where it shouldn't go and couldn't be dumped if complying with British Law or Western laws in general.
It contributes to making their products cheaper.
Combined with low wages, it might all explain why so much is conveniently imported from there, and that may not necessarily speak out in favour of the present tendency to import everything from these countries.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Promoting a fair-trade product produced at fair prices in respect of laws and regulations, and that allows British people to find work in our own economy and thus contribute to our economic success, could reap dividends morally and take off and become a national hit.
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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Sounds great! Hows about fair trade plumbers? Carpenters? Shop assistants? Energy regulators?
Er, fair trade traffic wardens? Distillers? Book sellers? Internet service providers?
Fair trade is about as useless as Ed Balls and his latest wheeze to save the economy by regulating the winter fuel allowance.
Hey there's an idea - fair trade pensioners.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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I do enjoy Philip's posts
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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ok Philip,how about cutting every thing in a fair trade way.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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oh dear brian you will upset the apple cart lol
they don't like being told
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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kieth there is a long answer and a short answer,and you have now got the short answer.not botherd.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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they don't like it up em capt Mannering lol
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Sorry but it will never get off the ground,there is not the cash about to put into it and no company will take it on,keep both feet on the ground.Easy to talk about it,just try to get it going
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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That's why we have the dover town team
funders
to see if this is a runner
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Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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That's not strictly true Keith, we are not business advisers or venture capitalists.
Anyway are you coming to the meeting?