Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Re: #22
I did wonder about what rules there may be with regard to buying Lottery Tickets for third parties, but things do seem to be plain and simple...(tickety-boo,
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(F) Responsibility for Tickets and Play Cards...
...Tickets
"(4) Subject to these Rules (including but without limitation the Ticket Validation Requirements and Rules 4(P) and 4(S)(8)):
(a) until such time as a name and address is placed on a Ticket, the holder of a Ticket which has been issued in accordance with the provisions of these Rules shall be the owner thereof for the purposes of these Rules;
(b) when a name and address is entered on a Ticket the person whose name and address appears there shall be the owner of that Ticket for the purposes of these Rules."
From...
http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/player/p/termsandconditions.ftl#RulesOffline_Sal_AIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Then there is the idea of 'Syndicates'*
Whether an existing syndicate could ask for a small extra donation to cover another entry and include "The Dover Fund" in its list of beneficiaries or a "Dover Fund" syndicate could be formed, with the sole beneficiary being the "Fund", but there being many members. Food for thought.
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http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/player/p/help/syndicates.ftl#tab2_int_maximumnumberIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 937- Registered: 12 May 2013
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Thanks Tom, I was in the process of looking up the rules governing 'third party' ticket purchase. Your profile pic intimidates me every time I come on this page! I don't feel like I'm addressing a 'normal' person, lol.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Just for you Pauline, I have taken steps to appear more 'user-friendly'. I do hope you approve.
[if and when the changes take effect, that is]
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 937- Registered: 12 May 2013
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Lol! Can't wait..........
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Jan Higgins
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Whose a nice cuddly teddy bear then, good one Tom.
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Guest 937- Registered: 12 May 2013
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Thank you Tom!! Much more friendly -
Guest 756- Registered: 6 Jun 2012
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Do you have any idea where you will source the raw materials required to manufacture the clothes and shoes ?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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probably the same place that he sourced the felt and innards for the teddy bear lesley.
Guest 756- Registered: 6 Jun 2012
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Oh no, has the badger cull thread morphed into this one ?
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Yes, Lesley. There are tanneries in England supplying leather for shoes, upholstery and other items, that use hides purchased in England from British farms.
Leather for a pair of shoes shouldn't cost more than a few pounds, once treated and spanned, although this process might add a few pounds more owing to the legal procedures required to deal with chemical by-products left over as waste.
But this would probably already be included in the end price of the tannery.
Raw materials for clothes could be imported raw and the end-product material produced locally on a separate production site.
In an initial stage, though, the materials could be purchased ready for use.
Modern materials for clothes tend to have various components making them resistant and of very good quality.
In the initial phase at least, these could be purchased ready for use.
An outlet for producing the materials from their initial raw components would be too ambitious in the early stages of the project owing to costs.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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You are leting your head run away on this one you can already get a per of shoes for about five pounds on line or even down the town no one is going to put up any funding for this.We are talking about Dover..
Guest 756- Registered: 6 Jun 2012
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Alexander, your principles are sound and in an ideal world would be viable. Sadly our economic state means that people will buy as cheaply as possible, forgoing quality in most cases. With little or no disposible income, who can blame them.
Unfortunately, eutopia is a long way off. The Communists have tried and are even as we speak finding themselves hit by the global recession.
Produced in Kent products can be purchased locally, very costly. Farmers markets are great, but again supermarkets are cheaper.
Everyone aspires to your dream, sadly very few people can afford to purchase into it. Thats reality.
Guest 756- Registered: 6 Jun 2012
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Forgot about the Brudehof Community in Nonington. They strive to be self sufficient, have their own factory producing wooden educational toys. They have their own school, bakehouse, laundry etc. and have a scheme which provides manpower and small funds to local community groups. They welcome visits from interested groups if you make an appointment.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Lesley, you asked me a question about the sourcing of raw materials, to which I furnished a reply.
The Brudehof Community - unknown to me - is not up for discussion here.
If you want a pound-shop economy and a society where governments don't bother about people working any more, then look no further than the collapsing EU society.
Vic, you receive your pension, but your pension was calculated back in the days when there was plenty more money about and when the EU had 10 member states, and British jobs still were given to British workers.
If you believe that your cosy pension will still remain untouched in a pound-shop economy, then you are terribly mistaken.
The people who pay your pension are the ones who are supposed to be working now.
Mess that up, and you can soon wave goodbye to everything you dreamt up!
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Lesley, I further suggest you take a look at the state of the British economy and its accounts.
If you are waiting for G. Osborne to give permission to the Bank of England to print off another £25 billion out of thin air to stitch and paste the economy together for another 3 months, the easy way, then let me reassure you it won't happen.
And if it did, the money won't go to pay pensions, benefits and private debts.
In fact, what you call an utopia is what British Prime Ministers from Mrs. Thatcher to T. Blair have dismantled and taken apart, namely the real economy.
They must have then taught at school that the real economy is the pound-shop economy. But then be prepared to receive food parcels in place of a pension
Happy Christmas
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Alex, are you coming to the meeting? Your idea is interesting but until we have a business plan there really is nothing further to discuss, at the moment it seems nothing more than a pipedream.
I'm sorry to dampen your bonfire, but as I pointed out previously, your scheme will take an enormous amount of money to get started, without a business plan showing projections there really is nowhere to go.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I got my old age penson by working all my working life from the age of 15 to 67, And that was without drawing any benfits,but I was lucky it is very hard to do that in the times we are in todays and I feel very sorry for members of the public without jobs.and as for living cosy on my penson you do not know anything about that and I am not even going to talk about it.
Guest 756- Registered: 6 Jun 2012
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Alexander, I am not a fool.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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David, then I can't come to the meeting!
