Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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There is zero chance of million £ houses being built at Connaught Park, relax Keith, it simply wont happen
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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It is not a zero chance by any means let me tell you that,and it might just happen and other places aswell.Dover to get more lots more funding ,it can not come from councils or the council tax,and my plan would do just that,I give you just one case of this in the pass,some years ago the race track at Lydden was going to be sold off to a very well know racing team,who were going to make it into their HQ,it was all going to plan,then they pulled out of it,and why?well I do not care what you heard why.but it was because there was no big houses like the ones I am talking about,in and around the district,if there had been then it would have gone ahead + the same can be said about the site at Sandwich,they also could not find the kind of houses that their top bobs wanted. Let me tell you this ,if you think small then that is what you get,Dover needs to think big and in doing that it will happen.and all of us will be better off to.The park will still be there and will be much better then a walk for dogs,and just how many of the public go up there ,in the state it is,even some of you who might not go along with what I am saying never go up there,and why should you,there is not much to look at.The town needs more middle class and top class of the public,if that does not happen the few we have will also up and go like some of my own family.And Dover will fall even more behind. The right party is in power in the District to carry this on so it does happen,but they are not the true blues as they were years ago.Well not in Dover anyway,we need funds and lots of it,it does not grow on trees,you have to want it to happen and go for it.
There is always a cost ,and if it means the park will be smaller then so be it, it is well worth going for it.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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worth another look at posts 47 and 84 to see that housing is a non starter in connaught park.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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They know no more then I do might even be less.They are talking about a caravan park.Nothing to do with what I have wrote about that is thinking small,just what I was saying,think small,get small.Start thinking big, reach for the stars,not bent to the ground.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Vic, theres not a developer in the world who would flatten the park to build £million houses in Dover in the hope they might sell them sometime.
Its fantasy island stuff
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Again you are wrong in saying that. And the house,s would fit in with what is around it,one would even look like a small castle.And there are developers out there that would fight over the site and where it is to get it,just like the Western hights.The houses would be sold before they are put up,along the lines the house owner would want.And the developers are in the UK .
Guest 656- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Howard, despite getting in touch twice now with Castle Forum they have still to date not replied to my emails. Their next meeting according to their schedule is Dec 18 although as it's Christmas week they may postpone that one or arrange an earlier date. I will keep an eye out for their next scheduled meeting and just turn up, join up, and go from there.
The awful neglect of Connaught Park started on this Forum and thankfully has been taken up by the local media so hopefully we can eventually get some plan together to take things forward. We have it on good authority, from one, Mr Paul Watkins, that any talk of housing development there is 'Absolute Rubbish'. He also said that the current neglect is simply down to government cuts and that it was no secret that horticulture has been hit badly but if communities want to take it on then they were to put their ideas forward. This is precisely why I contacted Castle Forum, Connaught Park is in their area, as am I, so hopefully as a starting point we can get things moving with their involvement. Alas, need them to respond in the first instance so will keep trying with that idea for now.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Sorry but where does Mr Watkins say that,I think you need to read that post again.thank you.At this time there are no plans in place for this to happen,And I never said there were,but that does not mean there will not be any,or it will not happen
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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When one looks at what is for sale around £400,000 within 3miles of Dover I can not imagine anything that could be built on Connaught or Western Heights being worth that kind of money, the plots just would not be big enough.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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vic
mr watkins makes it quite clear in post 47 as i said earlier.
colette
looks like castle forum are not interested maybe your ward councillor nigel collor might have ideas on getting a team together?
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Read post 52,anyway what Mr Watkins,is saying in around about way is"Nothing is in place for this to happen that the District council knows about.And that is 95%true,but nor does he say that if they were aske to do so,that they would not look at any plans that might come their way at some point if ever,So we are where we are for the time being.But never say the word never.
Guest 656- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Yes, Howard, my thoughts exactly on both counts, will let you know how I get on with Nigel
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Agree with Roger #99 - why is a campaign needed when it is just Vic hair brained idea
Been nice knowing you :)
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
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Mr Matcham. Let me categorically state there will be no housing development on Connaught Pk.
Above Connaught Pk boundaries, the old Connaught barracks site is different.
That is public knowledge and identified in the local plan.
Perhaps you & Mr Sansum don't understand plain English.
But never let the truth stand in the way of a malicious rumour or smear. Some use that as stock in trade.
Watty
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Yes I under stand plain English,and can use it like yourself,in my post I have never said that the District council have said anything about this plan at all Never Never,I said what I think is away of geting the park to look better and the funds to do it with.I standby that that the plan is avery good one. What I said is not a smear or a rumour,we all have ways in our head that we think are good and are not wrong in talking about them,unlike the District council. that have been telling us all what is going to happen in dover even showing drawing in the local press, only to see to all nothing is happing nor as it over the last 30odd years in Dover. Sorry to talk like this to you or anyone but you put me on the spot. In fact sir I think you should look at it,if you have no way to make the park look like a park and not a dog walk.Mr Walkins that is my way to bring back the park to what it was 50years go.You do not think the same.Ok lets hear from you the way the district council can do it,or does the council not have a plan or the funding to do anything,and if that is the case then myway even looks better then it did before.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
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I accept and so do my colleagues that Connaught Pk. is not to the standard that we would like for a Park of it's position & history.
Yet nobody has told me how to maintain that standard & provide all the services that the public desire.
If it is not Cannaught or other pks that have had their maintainence reduced, is it street sweeping, is it rubbish collection -see other threads, is it sports centres, is it the museum, what's left of tourism budget, don't publish planning notices or road closures ?
Don't support Town Team.
The list is inexhaustible.
As a parish/Former Town cllr you know you can increase your precepts to do what want.
As a District we cannot under this present public sector reduction regime.
We know the reasons why.
That is why the public taking over facilities or offering assistance is the order of the day.
So let's conclude by stating that there will be no housing in Connaught Pk. The Local Plan runs for a 20 year period.
Watty
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Vic, a plan to build houses in Connaught Park would not go ahead for any of three reasons:
1: it's not in the District core strategy.
2: it's not in any additional District corporate plan
3: a massive local petition would put an end to it should any developer ever present a plan.
I think you may find that the vast majority of people in Dover would never agree to any housing development up there.
That basically closes the topic.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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What you are saying is dead right Mr Walkins,and no blame should be put on you or the district council for want is happing,so we must think outside the box and do and act in away that if things were going great we would not do. My way is just one of them,we live in the days you can not have it bothways,better to have a very good looking park with f/beds nice pond etc then having it look like it does now, my way is telling you ,what you are asking maintain and keep the standard,even making it better,and Dover needs to look at all it has in the same way,it is all here,we need that kind of public to come and live in our district but will not come if all they see is flats,as I said before right party in power to do this, but only avery pale blue.And I am one who has no money or big house just come as a working class man, but I can see what Dover is lacking.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
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Alexander the topic was never opened other than by K S.
But that should be no surprise to you.
Watty
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Looks like we need an East Kent Council.........District Councils cannot afford to provide the services we need......