howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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howard,i dont know about you but this story broke yesterday,and so far therts been claims and counterclaims,and getting the same as same as story.
Keith Sansum1
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the programme is on wednesday so i believe
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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yes kieth.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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about 20 years ago i saw jim in dover
he wouldn't speak to the public
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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I'm surprised, I thought he mite be a puff.
Bit strange these lades never opened there mouth's before he died
May be the smell of money
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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As I said if it turns out to be true ,then They should take his Knighthood off him and let the records show why,
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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some people seem out to fix it for jim.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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true howard,it seems that way.but wonder who will be next.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Well, what is being said, and what there appears to be evidence for is the sexual assault of children. It's a bit off to bemoan the sexualisation of the young of today only to ascribe to the young of yesteryear that same worldliness.
If adults are prepared to give such an Icon the benefit of the doubt, what might the innocents involved think?
If these accusations can be supported JS would deserve the same vilification as Gary Glitter, and the children every support.
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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I have to admit I never liked the man even if he did raise a lot of money for charity so I am quite prepared to believe these women.
To those who ask why now, I think it is because there is no longer the stigma (if that is the word) of men and women admitting child abuse as there would have been even 10 years ago.
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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I did once mention these charitable works to a spinal-injury patient and the possible reason behind the reaction I got may be explained this week.
Then again, if there was reason to be less than impressed, why keep schtum?
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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wise comments tom, there is a lot of stuff held back on this. reluctance to take action because of the loss of dosh to charities and also whether a jury would convict mr nice guy on the words of young girls.
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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I am not the slightest bit surprised about the accusations against Saville, take the fame away and alarm bells would ring if he was around children.
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I too am not surprised about this, I always found him a bit creepy, but there is something unsettling about all this arising after his death. Someone should have raised the issue publicly while he was alive so he could answer the accusations, in court if necessary.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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complaints were made but the suggestion is that savile was such an icon that it would make it impossible to convict him.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Barry, you have made me realise why I never liked him creepy fits the bill perfectly. On your other point this was first raised about 5 years ago while he was still alive.
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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No-one should be above the law particularly in such serious matters even when an 'icon' raising money for charities.
Jan - but why did it not lead anywhere? I certainly don't remember anything about it.
Terry Nunn
- Location: London Road, Dover
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I was invited once to an event where he was present. After being told by a former national radio dj that he was "odd" I didn't go.
Rumours abounded 30 years ago, I'm surpised it's taken so long to come out.
He did after all have a very unnatural relationship with his mother.
Terry
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Guest 730- Registered: 5 Nov 2011
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It should have been investigated while he was still alive. It doesn't seem very fair to bring it all up now when he can't defend himself.