Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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If they come in undetected, that is a problem as you say Howard, but if people arrive here by plane of ship, the Border Agency know what country that plane or ship came from and they should be sent back to that country.
Roger
Guest 1103- Registered: 3 Nov 2013
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I am sure there is always a way of " loosing " a passport or ID. Then you are undetectable as well? Just thinking as People can be very ingenious when it comes to them as a "lifesaving" decision making.
Unless BDA is holding data of all passports when enter the country for a certain length of time.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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quite common for people to have an id passing through many countries then lose it when they are halfway across the channel.
at one time everyone arrived from wartorn kosovo.
it then transpired that there were 3 times more kosovans in western europe than there ever were in kosovo.
Keith Sansum1
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We should out those in genuine need(if they get here) but those that are not should just be returned
the system is in chaos and we need a brave person to say,,,,,,, nope it's not happening anymore
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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keith s
we have such a person Nigel Farage ukip he will send them back
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thats still to be seen keith b
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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I guaranty you keith if ukip get in we will be leaving the EU
Closing the open door borders
and all them that don't qualify for work permits will be removed.
The ragass will be out
All benefits to non uk citizens will stop ,,,the draw factor will be over
All social Housing will be for British only
We will reopen trade with the commonwealth and the world
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Keithb
Yours is a view point
In not sure what the term if we get in, means.
if you mean winning the 2015 electiion you are sillier than i thought lol
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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As the strains of resource go up on British society votes will change
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KeithB - I do think that much of what you say about the strains on our resources, may well be true as many/most voters do want more constraints on who comes here and who doesn't and who receives benefits and who doesn't.
There's not an infinite amount of money or land to house/support/employ the rest of Europe should they decide to come here. The EU beaurocrats think we can accept everyone, the truth is, we can't.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i read a lengthy piece on the "independent" website earlier about the effects on immigration in london over recent years.
it is now the polish and lithuanian construction workers complaining about romanians taking a lot of their jobs.
the reason they are unhappy is that wage rates are being pushed down, ring any bells?
Guest 1103- Registered: 3 Nov 2013
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Its all very fine KeithB, but I know there are alot of scroungers and benefit cheaters are british citizen. what you are going to do with them;)
I see your point and think where you coming from,as this is not just happening in the uk.
Its a EU - Issue.
I dont think, to blame it on migrants and foreigners and point fingers they need to get out its solving the problems the country is having now.
The problem is, I believe too much red tape, no one wants to take up that kind of responsibility and also big issue is DISHONESTY.
Not sure if you ever looked out the open Window, but there is more under the boiling point then you can imagine. These Points you raised are very in the direction of far right. Looks like The Human Race dont learn from their mistakes???
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Guest 1103- Registered: 3 Nov 2013
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Howard, this issue you mentioned in your last post 111 Germany faced 10 years ago and now the wages are on a all time low for many years and years ahead.... England will go the same way eventually, as this will thrive the economy up, up & up. As it is like this in Germany.
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I seem to recall that West Germany had a similar problem with/attitude towards the Turks in the early 80s. In the time I spent there in the Ruhr region, their attitude was quite hostile towards them and as a result, the Turks withdrew into their 'ghettoes' even more. Is the situation still the same Heike?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i may be good for the economy heike but not good for the people that see their standard of living fall.
surprised the germans put up with it.
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they are tired Howard .... thinking back, I understand it more than ever. Its like an Illness, you fight it or you loose it.
Sometimes its pointless to go on and on and on. I do hope in some ways, England is doing the right thing themselves as it would be a shame, if they choose the same path as Germany. But it certainly looks that way.
England should be independant. I believe its too strong influenced by the US. It shouldnt be. There are lots of intellegent english People outhere and should be confident in things they are doing.
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Paul Isles, I grew up in the eastzone
But the turkish people are more integrated in these areas than the west.
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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I Went in to Weston union in Folkston today ,only in there 5- 10 mis
I see three people selling porning belongings rings and things all very desperate
People are struggling ,,sooner or later this will become reflected in politics.
People will be sat not turning on there heating to knight, sticking plaster politics will not cover this reality for ever
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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yep
and they have no one to turn to
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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pressure being put on dave over benefits to the new arrivals next january, normally he folds quite easily.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25114890