Peoples port community project
- 14 May 2012 08:19172285I quite agree Jan though I am not sure what they could do.
- 14 May 2012 09:24172292jan is right, the culprit/s can be easily traced nowadays.
probably just some kids with time on their hands. - Keith Sansum1
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14 May 2012 23:15172421As others have said, although may not supoport much of what alexander says
i suppory his right to postALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 15 May 2012 10:18172487Sad to read your post about the troubles on your blog Alex.
It is a risk we run when we open blog items for public comment, had a few odd anonymous ones on items on another website myself.
If they are made by someone who is not overly IT literate, they can generally be traced back to the address of the person who posted them and this is worth the effort if they are particularly abusive or threatening.
I hope that you get it all sorted. - 15 May 2012 19:19172586was talking to someone today who works for the harbour board and apparently the big worry for the staff is the possibility of another company being brought in to run the port and staffing it with cheaper overseas staff.
seems unlikely i would have thought with the expertise of current staff. - Brian Dixon
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15 May 2012 19:29172589under the presant circumstances howard it wouldnt surprise in the least,after the dhb's move by out sorsing them to other firms. - 15 May 2012 20:01172593Still not like you can outsource to India, it still needs 'local' people employed !Been nice knowing you :)
- 15 May 2012 21:21172603Irish Ferries lost considerable business when they employed almost all Eastern European staff instead of Irish people where they had been using all Irish labour. I was one of their punters who moved immediately to StenaLine as a result - many others followed suit.
- 15 May 2012 21:31172609that is the scenario that dhb staff envisage.
this issue has to be adressed. - Brian Dixon
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16 May 2012 07:07172630the mooring party are now two [2] seperate entatys,1 part is owned by p&o the 2nd part is by ocs or somthing simler.so no real alarm there 90% of the original team kept there jobs. - 14 June 2012 08:57178020i understand that the "community port" propsals have now been presented to the department for transport", we should hear what they are soon.
- Brian Dixon
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14 June 2012 09:07178025howard,dont hold your breath on this,it could take months/years. - 14 June 2012 11:26178047DHB on 13 June 2012 submitted, to the Secretary of State for Transport, an enhanced proposal of its privatisation scheme originally published in January 2010.....
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Our (DHB) scheme, and in particular the PDCT, appears to fit extremely well with Government's latest thinking on the criteria for the sale of trust ports. To date we have engaged with as with as many people as possible to create positive momentum, interest and enthusiasm for a PDCT which works for the community. A broad group of key community representatives has come together in order to take forward the development of the proposed Port of Dover Community Trust. The group, chaired by the Bishop of Dover, the Rt Revd Trevor Willmott, continues to meet in order to bring forward a united proposal for the benefit of the local community.
To find out more about our privatisation proposals and the PDCT, please download our enhanced submission.http://www.doverport.co.uk/?page=corporaterestructuring
Copies of the scheme can also be seen at the offices of the Board at Harbour House in Dover.
A 42-day representation period on the detail of the scheme is now in place and any person who wishes to make representation to the Secretary of State should do so in writing (addressed to the Secretary of State, Maritime Commerce & Infrastructure Division, Department of Transport, Zone 2/29, 33 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 4DR or by email to: Ports@dft.gsi.gov.uk) and copied to Sharon Higenbottam, Company Secretary, Dover Harbour Board (DHB, Marine Parade, Dover, Kent, CT17 9BU). The representations should be made by 27 July 2012. The responses may be shared or made public.
"email: dover7@msn.com - 14 June 2012 16:02178083Interesting timing. I think the DHB have rushed out the proposals to make it look as though they are responding to Tuesday's debate; however it's also just possible that the timing owes more to 1. last month's visit to Taipei by the great and good of DHB and 2. last week's reciprocal visit to Dover by the great and good of Taiwan International Ports Corporation. A quote from TIPC's website:
"TIPC will diversify its business interests and international capabilities to create a comprehensive business solutions system for international industry. TIPC will work to maintain the highest customer service standards in every aspect of its business and create a modern, efficient maritime commerce platform grounded in both value and volume growth. By facilitating the efficient flow of people, goods, finances and information between Taiwan and the world, TIPC has its sights set on becoming one of the world's leading port operating groups." That's code for: "We are going round the world looking to hoover up foreign ports in order to control both ends of our shipping routes." There is a precedent here - COSCO, the ports arm of Communist China, bought the port of Pireaus (Athens) two years ago.
If the DfT approve DHB's transfer scheme, I wonder who they might have lined up as a buyer.
Answers on a postcard please, to Kathy Bailes and Kelvin McKenzie. Those who are against the DPPT bid should be careful what they wish for.I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson - 14 June 2012 16:57178100# 134...Thats what Big Business is all about....
This Government is all about Privatisation.
Many could have sent you a post card months ago.....the ball was rolling then. - 14 June 2012 17:10178104The last one was the one that started this particular privatisation ball rolling, I think you'll find, if this administration is all about big business, then so was the last one and the next one is likely to be little different. In the end, if we want to keep our port from the hands of private equity big business, we have to fight to ensure that it is removed from the hands of politicians of all colours so that they can't sell it when they have a fancy to.
- 14 June 2012 17:27178112......and removed from their grasp in perpetuity.
"Politicians are not born, they are excreted" quote, Marcus Tullius Cicero.I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson - 14 June 2012 17:29178113i must admit that i noticed the two press releases and thought that d.h.b. were very clever in showing themselves with a xdelegation from a highly successful organisation.
neil is spot on with his comments about governments and big business, both major parties have been in cahoots for 3 decades after all they need their funding. - 14 June 2012 17:37178116# 136...# 137...#138..Agree.
How do the public stop something that has a momentum before they are aware of it ? - 14 June 2012 17:50178121139, Good question Reg. But many of these initiatives are run by clever civil servants, of whom ministers live in fear. Just like district councils, but on a bigger scale.
"When a state employs many servants, they soon imagine themselves to be our masters", Cicero again I'm afraid.I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson