ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Paul Watkins wrote:Ray #56.
Please remove those offensive racist words in your posting.
They are not my words, as I suspect you well know. It's a pity you weren't so vociferous the first time round.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2027390/Tory-councillor-Bob-Frost-suspended-racist-Facebook-jungle-bunnies-riots-remarks.htmlray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Captain Haddock wrote:The Left: There aren't enough houses
Me: 25,000+ have crossed the Channel this year
The Left: The NHS is overrun
Me: 25,000+ have crossed the Channel this year
The Left: Our infrastructure is overloaded
Me: 25,000+ have crossed the Channel this year.
The Left: You're a racist
Is that really the best you can do? Trying to portray yourself as a crusader against the evils of immigration in a battle with an uncomprehending left whose only response is to brand you a racist?
The NHS is overrun because of a pandemic and a catalogue of government errors in handling it. That and a desperate shortage of qualified staff due to underfunding.
Our infrastructure is overloaded for many reasons, not the least of which is that a large proportion has been handed over to the private sector who have milked it dry. Are train operating franchises being taken back under government control because of immigration? Is Southen Water such a national disgrace due to more immigrants going to the toilet?
And all those poor immigrants robbing our first time buyers of their chance to get on the housing ladder when they could be living in Napier barracks instead.
Good grief.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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The point is there was absolutely no need to repeat them, those of us who were around at the time know who and when they were used. In my opinion using them again makes using such a term even worse as you know how exactly offensive it is.
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Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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They were not his words for accuracy last time ,if I remember correctly.
Pity you did not care to add I suspended him from the Conservative Group for three months.
That does not justify you using the words now.
If it was wrong then you are only compounding it now by using the phraseology.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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https://www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/several-dead-in-channel-tragedy-258018/?fbclid=IwAR2LD185n3-E9tJ1MN3_fXvNTDMEtyBInIOkFEExGH42oikkL9yPbZl2PZo
So sad and completely unavoidable. I just hope the French police were not simply watching the launching as has been shown in earlier news pictures.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Paul Watkins wrote:They were not his words for accuracy last time ,if I remember correctly.
Pity you did not care to add I suspended him from the Conservative Group for three months.
That does not justify you using the words now.
If it was wrong then you are only compounding it now by using the phraseology.
I have absolutely no intention of apologising and I have to say I find this sanctimonious hand wringing rather nauseous. Look back and you'll see that I made reference to our fishy friend's now notorious use of those words in the context of the recent news of the disgraceful Windrush scandal where UK citizens, some of who had fought for this country, were branded illegal immigrants and some even deported.
Your former councillor described this scandal thus on this very forum:- 'Loadsa people apparently were too stupid or too lazy to regularise their position in the UK!'
I didn't notice you rushing to take issue with him about such blatantly racist claptrap but you're quite happy to vilify my use of irony to point out just how little things have changed.
I can provide another selection of links that demonstrate the accuracy of the Mail's report.
Guest 3925- Registered: 28 Nov 2020
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I've reported the offensive word and asked for it to be removed which can be done. If not, I've asked to me removed from the list of forum users.
We all (me included) have strong opinions on subjects but whilst I might not agree with other posters, I will not use offensive words myself or repeat offensive words others have quoted.
I can assure you that the migrant problem is VERY complicated and won't be solved without joined up working between countries.
Just spare a thought for some of our fellow Dover residents from the Coastguard / RNLI / BF that may be risking their lives helping the French today looking for the poor human beings that fell into the water.
(Just as I hit post, the moderator confirmed they will deal with this)
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Reginald Barrington
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Maybe this will prompt them to stop turning a blind eye to the boats being launched, which is in all but name aiding and abetting a criminal activity!
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Brian Dixon
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Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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The French have no powers to stop boats being launched other than by-law stopping people taking unseaworthy craft more than 50m offshore which was brought in to stop mad Brits trying to cross in such as bath tubs to get in the Guinness Book of Records. Fact.
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Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
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I wonder If maybe 1 of the other 11 thousand odd laws might be brought into play?
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Captain Haddock wrote:The French have no powers to stop boats being launched other than by-law stopping people taking unseaworthy craft more than 50m offshore which was brought in to stop mad Brits trying to cross in such as bath tubs to get in the Guinness Book of Records. Fact.
So the French have no 'endangerment to life' laws even when children are involved getting into unsafe overloaded boats, words fail me if that is true.
Listening to Macron this morning saying our government is playing politics is just pure hypocrisy on his part especially when his police arrested 4? suspected people smugglers within hours of this tragedy.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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makes you wonder what the french are doing with the 54 million we are giving them.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Sounds like they got hit by a large ship. Doh.
Am starting new GoFundMe 'radar-reflectors4calais'.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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Dover Pilot- Registered: 28 Jul 2018
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Five people smugglers arrested by the French within 6 hours of the tragedy. This route can be stopped if there is political will but sadly both sides of the channel are not using their resources.
There has long been a belief within Border Force that the Home Office are trying to balance public perception alongside a hidden agenda.
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Matey
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Captain Haddock wrote:Sounds like they got hit by a large ship. Doh.
Am starting new GoFundMe 'radar-reflectors4calais'.
That’s not amusing, is it?
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alexiatrade- Registered: 10 Oct 2018
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Bob Frost....ex-councillor and racist...wrote..........
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Sounds like they got hit by a large ship. Doh.
Am starting new GoFundMe 'radar-reflectors4calais'.
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How absolutely disgusting to say this on a public forum which is read all around the world.....
Shameful.............................
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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alexiatrade wrote:Bob Frost....ex-councillor and racist...wrote..........
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Sounds like they got hit by a large ship. Doh.
Am starting new GoFundMe 'radar-reflectors4calais'.
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How absolutely disgusting to say this on a public forum which is read all around the world.....
Shameful.............................
You won't find many of his obsequious acolytes on here rushing to click the 'like' icon here, Alexia.
Mention some of his past odious remarks and fingers will start pointing from every direction. Watty - am I still the main contender for your naughty step? Any fellow human beings out there?
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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It is nothing more than a tasteless comment which he loves to think is clever and to wind us up, just ignore him.
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Button
- Location: Dover
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On a point of order, does it become less "disgusting" with repetition?
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