Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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...Nigel Farrage in this video clip giving the European Parliament some home truths and in so doing exposing the whole shoddy house of cards they have built up in trying to protect the Euro.
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The sheer loonacy of what is happening beggars belief.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Greece is likely to leave the euro soon, Barry.
The Cabinet have given the Bank of England the go-ahead to lend tens of billions to the UK banks, and possibly to do more money printing any time soon, quantitative easing.
Brian Dixon
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what ever,such a comedien he is.no wonder he is not taken seriously,just like osbournes joke last night.you can only laugh cant you.
Guest 730- Registered: 5 Nov 2011
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He's right though isn't he, well I think he is anyway. Shame some of our leaders can't see it. Well they probably can actually can't they, they're just too stubborn to admit they were wrong.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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The point is he is right Brian, he illustrated well exactly what is happening and the foolishness of politicians looking to keep their ill-conceived project alive and the way they are just shuffling around those deck chairs as the boat sinks.
Yes, Alexander, it will not be long.
As for the BoE - I will be commenting on that in my blog that I will upload tomorrow among other matters....
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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barry,we all know the bloke is a joke,i have taken 2 large pinches of salt in preperation,then went and had a change of underwear.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Barry, I remember talking to you a while back and saying how I enjoyed listening to Farage, a breath of fresh air amongst the faceless identikits in parliament
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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I dont know what to make of Nigel Farage. I am very familar with him through his years as a performer on TV, and the word here is ...performer. He loves the limelight, he loves an audience, and he loves a good anti EU rant. The link there shows him in full dynamic flow while the rest of the guys in the chamber answer their mobile phones, clip their finger nails, gaze into the distance and sigh deeply.
He is the boy who has cried wolf for so long that nobody listens anymore. But he is an entertainer, he gets invited back on TV often because of his engaging and dare one say charismatic aspects. But the tune is old, it's the same old song.
There is no doubt the Euro is in crisis and nobody quite knows how to fix it. Nobel prize winning economists are bewildered in their bafflement as to what route to take. The game is still afoot and the pigeons havent fully come home to roost yet. I am convinced that we need to fix the Euro and its problems and move forward as big players in a world where all the movement is towards the big economies. Big is good, small not so good.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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paulb,you could put the 3 amigos in charge of the eu,the 3 amigos would be farage,cameron and osbourne all comidians they are.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Paul, I disagree entirely, in recent polls UKIP are ahead of the lib dems, more and more people are listening.
As for economists, they are the most discredited profession going, few, if any, predicted the iceberg we were about to hit.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I have no time for UKIP as they are the Europhile's best friend effectively helping pro-EU Labour and LibDems.
Well, PaulB - far from crying wolf, Farage along with William Hague, John Redwood etc, have been fully vindicated in predicting the Euro crisis. The fact is the currency was ill-conceived as a crazy experiment for political not economic reasons. There is a solution but so badly has Europe been served by the experiment every solution carries a mass of pain even more so for those politicians who have staked their Superstate dreams on it. The currency needs to be carefully de-constructed.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Its an odd stance Barry, anti EU and anti UKIP!
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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All we need is Vic to come back for this thread and it could go on for ever
Audere est facere.
Guest 656- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Heaven forbid, Martin
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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The euro-scenario is going on forever, at least, every day.
And that it does even when we try to ignore it!
Just about every day we read of a new bail out, be it a country or a bank or all the banks of one country. Right now it's Spain, Greece anyway, and Britain's err.. Cabinet, is just right now telling us to be prepared for a eurozone crash...
Remedies on a Rizla red paper, please.
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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Farage speaks the truth in a way that no other politician is capable of. I suspect his detractors are merely envious of his innately engaging personality and the fact that he is able to deliver a point in such a way that it cuts to the heart of the argument. Conservatives dislike him because they know that their leadership lacks the command to say what has to be said and tug their collective forelocks to other leaders in Europe.
It's a shame because some years ago lefties and faux conservatives were describing Farage as a swivel eyed looney. In fact Baroness Warsi said the same some days ago. Some things never change. Remember which conservative leaders gave away our sovereignty bit by bit over the years - Thatcher, Major and now Cameron.
Nope He's a good guy.
Note the difference between his manner and that of Milliband. There is no comparison with the former behaving and talking like a fifth former. It's no wonder Labour bitterly regret electing him.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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philip
much as i enjoy lisening to him he comes across as a one trick pony, people vote normally on the economy and how their own finances would be affected by a change of government.
the core ukip vote is made up of disaffected blues, worryingly for lord flashman many of them were activists.
red ed was a bad choice for his party but there wasn't a lot of alternatives, not a tony blair type figure in sight.
Keith Sansum1
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it is unfortunate that the UKIP leader and party are not taken seriously, but like howard says they have little following just a protest party.
david l; of course they are ahead of the lib dems, who isnt lol.
howard;
i think ed started badly but is much improved and cameron is making ed look that much better.
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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I think any party attempting to enter Parliament would want to base a considerable part of their success on local campaigning by the local committees.
In some areas UKIP get a considerable percentage of the vote, no doubt where the local committee is out and about campaigning, holding speeches to the crowds, distributing ideology texts and talking to people.
Such campaigning should not be left to 5 days before a vote, but ought be continuous.
In such a case, the performance of one sole person who is leader of the party would not be the only way to attract support.
In Dover, I could think of a number of topics where UKIP could have made hay by campaigning, from Whitfield planning to Dover Port, from unemployment for local people to the absence of hope in the future for so many young people.
However, in order to campaign, a party needs someone willing to do this.
I remember when I campaigned for The Pledge on behalf of UKIP who had contacted me, and distributed thousands of leaflets in Western Dover, they never even bothered informing me how many people responded (each leaflet had a postage-free return receipt for the address and signature).
Treat people like that, and you lose them!
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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They don't like the truth, whom evers speaking it
