Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Ross Miller wrote:I suspect that you are right about a, however given DDCs track record they might do b, but will balls it up and get less than they spent so c, d, e will not then follow
Well THAT was what was written on the back of the fag-packet I saw .....................
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Another little duck comes in to line!
Charlie Elphicke
Verified account @CharlieElphicke
8h8 hours ago
We need more homes - especially for people from our area who need social housing or are first time buyers. Yet it’s important to build on brownfield first. I will be representing the concerns of residents to the developer and the council 2/2
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Charlie Elphicke
Verified account @CharlieElphicke
8h8 hours ago
Meeting residents from Northbourne & Finglesham who are concerned about development plans in their area. They told me brownfield sites - like the old Tilmanstone Salads & the Betteshanger Colliery sites - should be built on in preference to green fields 1/2
'especially for people from our area who need social housing or are first time buyers'
Yeah right! More breeding boxes for displaced Londoners fleeing the polyglottal stabby Hell-hole our capital has become .............
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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Captain Haddock wrote:
Meeting residents from Northbourne & Finglesham who are concerned about development plans in their area. They told me brownfield sites - like the old Tilmanstone Salads &
the Betteshanger Colliery sites - should be built on in preference to green fields 1/2[/I]
'especially for people from our area who need social housing or are first time buyers'
Yeah right! More breeding boxes for displaced Londoners fleeing the polyglottal stabby Hell-hole our capital has become .............
I agree with the Northbourne and Finglesham residents, brownfield sites rather than green fields every time.
I see the Captain is still against any potential developer building homes for those lower down the housing ladder or is it social scale than himself.
Maybe time to quote the old saying "mighty oaks from little acorns grow" as in my case tiny flat to council house to my own large Victorian house with a couple of businesses in between. BTW we also originated from London until moving to that ex mining and fishing town called Deal in the mid sixties.
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Pablo- Registered: 21 Mar 2018
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Jan, Bob’s point is that most new ‘affordable’ housing in East Kent is being snapped up by London boroughs to accomodate their unemployed applicants, thus offloading the resulting social problems (demand for school places, lack of doctors and hospital provision, crime and ASB) onto KCC and the district councils of this area. He’s quite right that Kent ratepayers shouldn’t have to foot the bill for London’s Rejects.
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Pablo wrote:Jan, Bob’s point is that most new ‘affordable’ housing in East Kent is being snapped up by London boroughs to accomodate their unemployed applicants, thus offloading the resulting social problems (demand for school places, lack of doctors and hospital provision, crime and ASB) onto KCC and the district councils of this area. He’s quite right that Kent ratepayers shouldn’t have to foot the bill for London’s Rejects.
In which case I apologise but unfortunately that is not how his many various posts on affordable housing read to me.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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It's much more than that Mr G.
As I've said before roughly 400 people die each year in Dover District and 200 are born. We in Dover District should actually be needing fewer houses!
Each year this stupid government is allowing an EXTRA 250,000 people to settle in the UK. No, they are NOT all teachers, scientists,nurses yet migration for 'work' alone was 275,000 in 2016.
Many are coffee servers and East Anglia crop pickers (the latter who should be seasonal workers on four month work permits) providing cheap labour to large corporations.
Joining family is roughly 50,000 a year such as the toothless workless khatt chewing Somalis who you see sitting on pavements in North London waiting for the pension to which they have never contributed.
Asylum is running at 25,000+ main applicants (the Home Office fiddles the figures by counting a family group as one application.
Because of this 36.7% of London population was born abroad last census.
Almost 60 per cent of recorded people sleeping rough in London are foreign nationals.
This has led in essence to 'white flight' from London.
The locals are not 'celebrating' the fact that their child is one of a minority speaking English as a first language unlike their lefty teachers.
They are not celebrating the rise in gun/knife and gangs like the self named 'Dem Africans' making an estate in Edmonton, in their case, a no-go area at night for locals (and I can site other gangs and postcodes all over London).
THESE are the people buying up all over the Home Counties as fast as Persimmon/Taylor Woodrow or our own Quinn can build.
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Keith Sansum1
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There is a problem Bob that your posting will appear racist
Of course the moves even under me Watkins watch allowed other authorities to house people in kent
Kent and District councils need to rethink this policy
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Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
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#27 Rubbish. Kent & Districts have been protesting to central government of All parties about London Boroughs dumping into Kent for at least 2 decades. That is without over placements of unaccompanied asylum children of dubious age determination. A national agreement to take limited Syrian refugees under Cameron was All DDC have agreed & when I retired that total was 3 families housed in private not social sector - costs met by central government.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Keith Sansum1 wrote:There is a problem Bob that your posting will appear racist
Don't. Be. Silly.
DO try to understand present legislation relating to 'race'.
Further to what Paul has posted, Dover has been seen as a flashpoint by government for anti-immigrant marches and there has been an unspoken agreement to keep immigrant population in Dover at a low. What was the 'Folkestone Road' problem is now being replicated all over the north of England as groups are 'dispersed'.
Top of my head I seem to remember that the % born abroad in Kent at last census was around 14% and Dover 4%?
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Chris- Forum Admin
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- Registered: 17 Oct 2009
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Please use another thread if you don't want to discuss the mining museum - would be nice to get this one back on topic.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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I think my earlier point remains, I along with my two London born children (the third was born at Buckland) should never have been allowed to move here, come to that neither should Howard another Londoner.
Luckily not all Londoners that choose to live in this area are "coffee servers and East Anglia crop pickers" my husband was actually educated at Dulwich College and after climbing the work ladder had a good job, that "coffee server" might do the same.
The days of staying where one was raised have changed, people can now happily move all over the country either out of choice or because of job reasons. Most areas usually benefit from the new ideas and the fresh blood that these people provide.
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Sorry Chris you posted while I was typing.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Shocked! Sold to Mr Quinn. Who would have thought it. Didn't see that one coming ......
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
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I will enjoy this museum
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Well, I went to the museum last weekend and it's not too bad for a small museum covering local mining taking up a tiny part of the building.
It was of course meant to 'Educate the public on the mining heritage of Kent and in old and new forms of energy production'.
On the latter zilch. Rien. Nada.
Nothing about nuclear, wind, geo-thermal, heat pumps, tidal, bio-mass or anything relating to how we might produce our energy in future.
A building longer than the Shard is tall and not one sodding solar panel on the roof (Rooftops on new buildings built in commercial zones in France must either be partially covered in plants or solar panels by law since 2015).
Disappointed but not surprised.
Meanwhile Dover District Council have granted permission to Quinn Estates to build the first 210 homes .................................
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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That's a Shame If that's the case Bob.
It should be about the pits before everyone forgets what they were about
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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As I said Keef, it's not bad at all for coverage of local mining - though I view it as criminal the removal of such as the pit head winding machinery and ancillary buildings which were part of our industrial heritage - BUT it could have been so much more.
e.g. I for one would like to know how windmills out at sea producing presumably a variable direct current poke 240V AC out of my sockets or how photo voltaics work.
I'd like to see a Stirling engine working with an explanation of how it works.
The same for heat pumps. Studied thermodynamics at Uni but I'm damned if I can explain how they produce more energy than you put in without Googling.
Such a wasted opportunity.
Apparently there was meant to be some sort of biomass energy thingy there but it was knocked on the head due to cost (so much for cheap green energy!?)
I was told that a lot of the building is going to be used as 'performance spaces'.
That's all we need. Visiting theater groups interpreting global warming through the medium of sodding mime ...................
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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I havnt visited as yet , but I can only take your word for it Bob.
I would have hoped they would have concentrated more on the mining side of things
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