Keith Sansum1
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Its what he leaves behind vince,
And still slow progress
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Guest 732- Registered: 8 Nov 2011
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Lets just hope Mr Wigging and his colleagues can repair the Damage when the DPPT roll in.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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alex
nationally the figures for youth unemployment are approx 20%, why would dover be three times as high?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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alex
if you scroll down to "jsa claimants april 2013" you will find the true figures for youth unemployment in dover.
https://www.nomisweb.co.uk/reports/lmp/la/1946157314/report.aspx#tabempunempGuest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Anyway howard
we do have problems whatever the figures
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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There appears to be a discrepancy between the figures I have from the Office of National Statistics, and those Howard has.
How high is youth unemployment in Dover?
Do the councillers have any knowledge on this?
We have two sets of statistics completely contradictory.
Youth unemployment is between 16 and 24, just for the record.
That said, not everyone who is unemployed necessarily signs on.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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getting back to topic,how much of a back hander is dr.bob getting.
Guest 732- Registered: 8 Nov 2011
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Don't worry his treasure chest will be full.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Let's hope a reply can come through on the figures of Dover's youth unemployment, as clearly there are contradicting reports being published. Does anyone have an explanation?
It's something we need to know.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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yep its called government cencership with a press blackout.from the ministry of misinformation.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the office of national statistics is totally independent of politicians brian, much as our betters would like to control them.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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As I understand it, Howard, the link you provided shows the unemployed figures in Dover of people receiving unemployment benefits, and so does not take into account the total numbers of unemployed.
But there is definitely an open question concerning the level of youth unemployment in Dover.
From 73% employment in 2011 down to 38%, this is what the ONS provided. That means a doubling in youth unemployment in one year.
The authorities have abandoned Dover's youth, which is why I don't encourage people to vote.
On the contrary.
We must put Kent first, forget all political parties.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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ah alexander we are back to no support for UKIP then??
without doubt everyone recognises that politicians of all all sides have a problem relating to there constituents,
they are at an all time low in the popularity stakes.
But it's how we get them to improve these figures is the right way.
We dont have an altrnative at the moment
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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My reference is to the Port and Dover's unemployment rate, Keith, in particular among the youth.
I campaigned for local regeneration through Port incomes, so that our Community could receive a constant revenue from the Port based on its influx of activity (port traffic). It would imply a law for all British ports equally, for local revenue from port traffic.
It would have been a bases for Localism on a financial scale, to finance local economic regeneration.
Both the Government and UKIP have a declared agenda of localism, but neither the Government nor UKIP supported my efforts. But at least Gov. mentioned my proposals in its Decision Letter.
For which reason, Keith old chum, I could not bring myself round to putting UKIP above the Government, as Gov. did more than UKIP for my cause, albeit in a Platonic fashion, but stopping short of actually implementing it.
So I decided to abandon the County election campaign and leave Gov. and UKIP to slog it out in a manly and fair fashion, without putting my weight in.
After all, Keith, I believe in a fair fight, and also weighed up my own chances of success by not campaigning door to door against either of the contending parties.
I was involved in confidential talks with UKIP towards the end of last year after being contacted, but these broke off.
But then I had also contacted Gov. in the same period, and the results were inconclusive.
Nothing to date became of my Port proposals.
As it stands now, Dover's youth are in a very poor situation regarding employment opportunities, and everything I strived for was for Dover's youth to have a fair future within the economy.
It was a standing part of my representations to the DfT.
I will continue to uphold the cause and will never give in.
And I'm unaware of any political parties campaigning for Dover's youth.
The candidates campaign for themselves, or for personalised causes, or for their own success and prestige, not for the youth who are our future and Kent's posterity.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Alexander
It is incorrect to say no party is doing anything for youth, im sure all of the parties if asked could come up with many initatives on youth.
It is correct we have a problem with indusries closing, and unemployment over 2 and half million
Things are not looking good for the future, with no light at the end of the tunnel.
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Fact is, Keith, the Government has not accepted the only viable and fair solution for local financial investment coming from local revenues in Dover.
It would have been the start of true localism, and can still be so.
And no, no political party in Britain campaigns for the Youth.
I have never come across a political party manifesto with manifest intentions to dedicate utmost priority to young people in our Country.
That is why we have a national average of over 20% youth unemployment, Keith.
And Charlie's "people's port" certainly offered no opportunity for any local regeneration.
It would have placed a £400 million local debt on the "local community", if the "people's port" be taken by its declared face value of "the local community".
Counting 30,000 residents of Dover, that would be like Britain taking on a £1 trillion debt.
We already have one!
Of-course the Government saw through it, which is why they never bothered putting up the "people's port" to a public consultation.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Alexander
I again applaud your enthusiasm, but try to question your view point.
1; I'm sure all local political parties would support views for monires be spent locally, whether it be the port or anyone else, this you will find even barryw would have some sympathy for, where even he has campaigned for less top heavy govt and more monies kept in Dover.
2; It's not correct to say the peoples port has been rejected in any way, we are waiting for a stalling govt to come up with
a decision, which may or may not include the peoples port, in part or full.
3; Im sure politicians will/can tell you of lots of inintiatives to involve/help youth
4; nobody on here denies politicians of all walks of life have lost the faith of the electorate but we don't have an alternative
at the moment
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Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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Sensible precis Keith.
Never give up...
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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To the best of my knowledge, Keith, the Government asked DHB to find some future solution, but not privatisation, which therefore excludes a sell-off of the Port. There is no way DPPT can purchase the Port of Dover.