Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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The difference of course with Calais and Dover is that Calais is flat and has lots of room - all the new redevopment there is so much easier, but the planning stage is so very important, which I believe we should start now.
It is as you say PaulB, a very important and significant step forward.
Roger
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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There seems to be much greater cohesion between all the main players recently..DHB and DDC etc...and dare one say it, even HMG. The story on the frontpage confirms this increased cohesion, which can only be for the benefit of us all in the long run. As has been stressed its all related to economic conditions being right, but you can see why, as the expense involved looks daunting.
Guest 656- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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This is very positive news indeed. Its good to see all the major players in unison, onwards and upwards
Guest 663- Registered: 20 Mar 2008
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This has to be good news lets just take it as a piece of good news, and not just condemn before its even got off the planning board with doom and gloom,
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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It is good news ,but we need the jobs now not in five or more years time.
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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Vic.
So what is your solution for getting jobs today?
"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I do not have one,but opening the pits again would be a good start,I have said this before.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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according to brian's photo terminal two is imminent, if not why has a popular and successful company been hounded out of dover?
Keith Sansum1
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interesting,,,,,,
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Any news whether there will be a rail terminal?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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last i heard the work starts on the new terminal the week after next with completion in time for the person's port takeover.
hopefully mr waggott will confirm this.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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The person's port takeover.
OK, will the person have a rail terminal built?
Moreover, with whose money?
Brian Dixon
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from the city alex,it has been already answerd.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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If Mr. Waggott confirms all this, Brian, then it will undoubtedly appear in the local papers.
The person's port receiving money from the City to build T2 at Western Docks.
Hold on, if DHB have the terminal built before said takeover, then this leaves the question unanswered, Brian:
DHB haven't said they would borrow money from the City to built the terminal.
Hence my question: with whose money will the terminal be built, if this is to come about under DHB?
And when will the terminal be completed in time for the handover to the person's port?
Guest 673- Registered: 16 Jun 2008
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:according to brian's photo terminal two is imminent, if not why has a popular and successful company been hounded out of dover?
Howard, T2 is not remotely imminent and in all likelihood will never be built. The reasons for Folkestone Fixings having to move were explained by Neil on the thread below:
"The works that will happen and which have caused the exit of Folkestone Fixings are changes that the DHB had to agree to carry out within three years of being granted the HRO to develop the Western docks. They were the condition imposed by DDC and the Environment Agency before these organisations would drop their objections to the entire T2 HRO. These works will therefore have to proceed whether or not T2 is actually going to happen - The DHB made a legal commitment to carry them out and any successor will be bound by that agreement."
http://www.dover.uk.com/forums/dover-forum/dhb-meeting-today?p=2Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Does this mean there won't be a person's port takeover?
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Alexander D wrote:If Mr. Waggott confirms all this, Brian, then it will undoubtedly appear in the local papers.
The person's port receiving money from the City to build T2 at Western Docks.
Hold on, if DHB have the terminal built before said takeover, then this leaves the question unanswered, Brian:
DHB haven't said they would borrow money from the City to built the terminal.
Hence my question: with whose money will the terminal be built, if this is to come about under DHB?
And when will the terminal be completed in time for the handover to the person's port?
Alex, if you mean your mythical rail terminal then nobody has any plans for one so the money is not a problem. All that DHB and DPPT have said is that land has been set aside for any small rail interface should future developments make it desirable. There are railway tunnels under the sea and the railway lines no longer end at Dover so there is no call for a rail terminal.
If you mean the hypothetical T2 terminal, then the DfT outlined several ways of financing this to DHB in their letter giving their reasons for turning down the DHB privatisation proposal.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Ed, you wrote:
"land has been set aside for any small rail interface should future developments make it desirable."
That's good news, it means the Government accepted my rail link to Dover Port proposal which I made in my representation starting Feb. 2010.
Thanks for the info, Ed. I'll update my website with the good tidings.
I always knew the Government was eyeing with interest my representations to the Department for Transport.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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The Royal port of Dover will NOT be any take over by anyone all this talk is rubish the port will stay a Royal Port within the Royal Charter and the Government is not taking any notice of anyone as the post above is saying you can talk to yourself till blue in the face but it will again NOT HAPPEN.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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we will know over the next few months the department for transport will make the final decision.
