Keith Sansum1
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have you tried to move the heights paul?
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Guest 868- Registered: 25 Jan 2013
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Well bits of the Heights have made their way into various buildings - spoke to someone that has a loft redone with wood from the barracks, and the floodlights when they were stolen someone has some big "tomatoes" growing in their garden!
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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And I was thinking I was the only nutter on the forum.
Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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'Black Knight' Howard- Great song from Deep Purple - released June 1970. Now with modern technology he could probably have his limbs re-attached-nothing is impossible.
Never give up...
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Where did the wood for your summerhouse come from, Vic?
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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Why Trams(albeit Hydrogen/Flywheel powered) will be returning to Dover. The Folkestone Plan has already been drawn up.
It's all starting to happen very quickly. January 2013 had the lowest fuel sales since 1990, underlining the decline in car use that now seems unstoppable. This is partly because of austerity but it also seems many young people have no interest in driving or getting a car - when was the last time you saw a even a teenager tinkering with a car outside his parents' house? Amongst the young cars are increasingly seen as terribly uncool and horribly expensive.
Secondly we are now getting clear warnings that the UK will face an energy crunch from 2015, with rolling blackouts likely. This will of course kill any silly talk of electric cars dead. I read somewhere that we would need 3 or 4 times current levels of generating capacity to cope with a switch to electric cars, there really is no chance of that happening - the energy just won't be there. In reality available energy is falling year on year.
Behind these specific reports there is now a general feeling of change in the air. The weather in 2012 was exteremely weird, way beyond even the most pessimistic forecasts. All of this is loading even more costs on our already fragile economy, which has now lost its AAA rating- all with the backdrop of the pursuit of outmoded growth
And for those of us that are still driving the potholes are geeting deeper and wider and more common - yet another sign that change is in the air ... a massive rail/tram revival is on its way on the crest of the wave of a forthcoming mass community co-operation.
(with thanks to my colleague Steve Sainsbury)
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Indeed Dover will see electric buses, and therefore possibly trams too, and the railway will certainly increase.
The tram shelter should stay put.
Mass-car-use is on its way out. Pollution, carbon emission laws, cost of petrol, cost of cars...it's all written on the wall.
Richard, you should have supported me when I campaigned at DfT for the rail connection at Western Docks.
As you can now see, when you rightly want the tram shelter to remain in Elms Vale on account of your correct estimation on future transport, you are alone and no-one else will hear you (except me).
Anyone who believes we can just go on driving cars galore has failed to grasp reality.
Yet I know for sure that Folkestone Road will change, the car-traffic situation there will change drastically.
Likewise in Dover Town. One day we will have electric public transport, including buses.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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For a town of around 30,000, trams will not be introduced, even buses are 3/4 empty most of the time. Who would pay the investment costs for a start and then the running costs ?
Novel it may be, realistic - never.
Roger
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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What ever you lot are drinking,you need to stop its gone to your head and doing mine in.
Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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Systems are being developed which minimise capital and operating costs Roger and take into account the drastic reduction in the use of personal car transport.
Never give up...
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Roger
You obviously dont travel on buses, buses i travel on are mainly full to over crowding and i do it daily at least twice.
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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You're right Keith, I don't travel on buses, but I see them when I'm walking or driving and most of the time, the majority of seats are empty - no bums on them.
Richard - I haven't noticed a drastic reduction in the use of the car; motorway drivers don't seem to take any notice of the rising cost of petrol/diesel - they're still speeding well over 80/90 mph.
Roger
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Like all impoverished country's the motor scoter will be the order of the day
Especially when the H S E madness surrounding the licensing of these machines is consigned to the Quango dustbin
Guest 868- Registered: 25 Jan 2013
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A tram system would be a better investment than a cablecar !!
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Well all you bus users(sue) interesting to hear from you
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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all the busses i travel on are full to over flowing.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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we agree brian
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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certain bus routes are always very busy as evidenced by the extra buses being added all the time. used to be 2 an hour to canterbury now 4, exactly the same for folkestone and beyond, if my memory serves me correctly there used to be only 1 an hour to deal now 2.
within the town the 61 and 63 routes seem to be the busiest, no doubt others are too.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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i agree with that howard,certanly busy the 3 times i went to town today.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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oh dear roger
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