howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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richard
you are beginning to sound like black night in the monty python sketch all those years ago.
much better to admit defeat, lick wounds and move on to something more realistic in my view.
Guest 868- Registered: 25 Jan 2013
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Ah, nice for everyone to go for the stereotypes and pin this straight on 'youths' - as with a lot of vandalism on the Heights it is more often than not over 18s.....
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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We do need the shelter for when the trams return.
Folkestone Road should have a tram service reinstated, as cars will be restricted anyway with the looming financial crisis and petrol costs.
It's a forgone conclusion that trams or electro-buses will be transiting along Folkestone Road.
It will happen!
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Not in our lifetime Alexander - and Richard, I'm afraid.
I actually agree with Tom, let's make a show of it and show we do care about the Tramshelter.
I like the idea of strong plastic panels (can we make them bounce-back as per Jan's suggestion) and good luck with measuring for those missing teeth Richard.
I'll talk to property services in the meantime.
Roger
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Post 319 sorry but to talk like that is rubbish,as I pointed out it needs to go to where the public will see it even use it and it will be99%safe and that is Dover Castle it is part of Dovers history and needs to be saved all the talk about trams coming back it would be great but in the real world never happen in Dover.So (1) Do nothing and repair it again and again etc.(2) Moved it to a place where it will be safe and 1000s of the public will see it,and the good thing it will be used again. end.
Guest 868- Registered: 25 Jan 2013
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Vic the chances of English Heritage wanting it on their property is a big fat 0, what relevance has it got !!!
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Transport Musuem at Whitfield?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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that was my original suggestion sue but i have no idea if they would want it.
Guest 652- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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We want it, IT STAYS. its our heritage, give in to vandalism never, thats the trouble today, nobody stands their ground, its easier to turn a blind eye
Guest 868- Registered: 25 Jan 2013
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Grade 2 listed English Heritage probably won't let it be moved as it isn't like it is at risk from a road going through the area or something
Here is Ramsgate's project that it looks like has now been completed to restore NINE Victorian shelters along the promenades:
http://www.ramsgate-society.org.uk/articles/shelter-news.phpTerry Nunn
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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The Community Safety Unit at DDC has a portable temporary cctv camera that could be fitted for a while. Might be worth contacting them. It's normally fitted to a lamp post.
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,883
While not wishing to put a dampner on the CCTV plans (anything is better than nothing) unless culprits are identified and prosecuted it will be a waste of time and money, much like the continued repairs.
I am sure we would all prefer the shelter to stay where it is but unless it is guarded 24 hours a day it is a sitting target for the vandals.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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if it continues in the same location there will not be much left of it eventually and the next generation will condemn us for neglect.
people talk about the demolition of brook house in the past, much the same scenario.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Terry - I contacted the Manager of the CSU about it last summer and they put up a temporary CCTV last year in the Autumn half-term period (just before and just after it), but no damage caused and so it was removed without any incidents occuring.
Everyone has a view on whether it should stay or be moved; you can't please all the people all the time (come to think of it, it's difficult, if not impossible, to please even just a few people, some of the time).
Roger
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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So howard
are we always to give in to the vandals?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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that is exactly what we are doing now keith, when we go out we secure our homes that is not considered giving in to burglars.
Guest 868- Registered: 25 Jan 2013
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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What this this ? give into vandals even if you catch them you can not give them a good beating that is what it would take to stop them you are beating them by taking it away then they can not do it any more.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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lets give in to vandals on everything
where would this end,,, crazy me thinks,,,
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Guest 868- Registered: 25 Jan 2013
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In this case shall i give up with the Heights?