howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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hope the shelter is still there when you turn up richard.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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It will be
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
to late,some tea leaf nicked it overnight.shades of brooke house here.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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There were two panes missing after the refurb.
Did you contact Property Services about those missing "teeth" then Richard ?
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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one for those who want the tram shelter to stay where it is, taken this afternoon.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Bloody Hell !!!!!
Roger
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Very sad to see that ,but it was always going to happen,we have seen it each time in the pass ,and things like this do not change overnight, for it own and the history that goes with it,it will have to be moved,as I said it can be done without taking it all down,but will not go into all that again.As I said very sad.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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I could easily echo the astonishment expressed by Roger above...if the windows have not yet been replaced and a bench reinststed.
Zounds!! I say, zounds!
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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so much for half term, we will soon have easter, then whitsun, probably not much left of it for the 6 weeks holiday.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,895
B*****ds!!!!!! So that means even more money being thrown at the thing, what a waste.
We could do with an inventor coming up with bouncy glass so the missile throwers end up receiving said object back with double the force.
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Now that would be a great idea Jan - love the idea.
I have costs for a CCTV fixed to a house nearby (thanks for the info Tony), I just have to determine which house - and check with the CSU that we can do it (and fund it of course).
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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trouble is video evidence is normally only used for high profile crimes roger and even then it would just show someone with their face covered.
cctv would be just another waste of money to add to the continuing repair costs.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Why don't you, the good people of Dover, heed your own advice?
Soon to be the Easter break and then the long summer break, the time is right, the time is now; to get the whole thing refurbished and looking as good as new.
Get Mayor Mrs. Smith down with her shiny shears to unveil one of Dover's wonders. Full press and local TV coverage.
The children will need somewhere out of the wind to sit out the coming balmy evenings.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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have you been on the hard stuff tom, total refurbishment in that location would be a magnet for every herbert from miles around?
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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best reinstate the borstal for a scrots holiday home from home,with a boot camp style regime.up at 5 am for brekkie half a bowel of grule work from 6 am untill noon,with 2 slices of dry bread and half a glass of water.and if they are good a bacon sarnie for tea.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Setting your rather 'spirited' comments to one side Howard...
And, of necessity, ignoring the drive to lower property prices in the area...
Is there no better way to show afection and respect for this listed edifice than leaving it to rot, or equating it's interminable tease-glazing with cuts to the funding of those least able to survive them?
If this Tram Shelter is not simply there to attract diaprobrobrium and distract the local voters from deeply serious issues elsewhere in local government, then surely it deserves proper attention.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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tom
much as i admire your genuine concern for the minority of dover's yoof that misbehave and your altruism, might i suggest an alternative venue for them to conduct their social intercourse?
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Howard, it is doubtless my fault entirely.
Here we are on page 16 and I am sure I have had more than my 'fair' share of input, and no matter how often I say it...the sea gull of happiness swoops down and grabs the sense of what I say from between my very lips.
There is an old brick built mill in or around Dover, it has sat there where it has been for eons with locals passing this way and that amusing themselves by marvelling at and counting the broken windows. Oh, let us pray that a use can be found either for the building of for the site. They cry.
It is much the same for this shelter, but without the hope of renewed usage.
-Surely not all of Dover's young people are beyond the pale?
-It is not plain that those who you neglect are attracted to that which you neglect also?
The fault MUST lie with the adults:parents, councillors, business-people and residents. Blaming children is simply not the attitude of the grown-up.
Refurbish the thing, nice fitted bench, complete glazing, and complete trim. Make a public statement of the importance of this building to the local buil;t environment and welcome it use.
As it stands, the shelter is litterally neither use nor ornament. Unless you are p*ssed-off and want something to mark that fact, be you snooty resident or bolshy teen.
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Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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We need the shelter for when the trams return. To hell with the vandals -just repair it again- to hell with the cost. Don't let them beat us. Special acrilic sheet could be used (as employed in police riot shields!). Last Tuesday evening I called at the shelter and measured up for the missing fascia pieces. Will make them then see about how we are to fit them re the authorities.
Howard- photos like yours just strengthen the resolve to keep the shelter right where it is.
Tom- absolutely concur with you.
Never give up...
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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richard
you are beginning to sound like black night in the monty python sketch all those years ago.
much better to admit defeat, lick wounds and move on to something more realistic in my view.