Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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Peter, by bringing up this old chestnut-you realise you could be creating a climate for fighting in the streets?!
One thing they have got at Whitfield I guess is pretty good security.
Alternatively, how about a massive purpose built museum building on that bomb site car park area adjacent to Russell St? It could include a cinema and an appropriate tenant heritage shopping Mall,coffee shops and could feature restoration workshops,interactive exhibits, the bronze age boat, state of the art heritage transport display facilities,volunteer accommodation and another crack at the 'White Cliffs Experience'-which should never have been allowed to die. I thought it was brilliant. The whole thing could come under a new title- the 'Dover Time Machine'. The jewel in the crown will always be the castle but tie the promotion of it all up with the Western Heights Organisation and Dover could become a force to be reckoned with. Dover will cease being a pass by town and become a major destination. Accordingly, the complex would be a major employer and boost the local community's fortunes.
Oh by the way -the new tram depot would be next door.
..and the maritime backdrop to all this -daren't mention it!
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Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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Vic- ancient cast iron structures like the Elmsvale shelter need very careful handling. I would certainly not risk lifting it in one piece in the way that limited available resources would allow. Specialist removal of this type would cost a fortune-and why -when it doesn't have to be moved in the first place. You talk about burning bolts off -so you must envisage some degree of dismantling if indeed it has to be moved.
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Guest 652- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Surely if this is grade 2 listed, it remains in its rightful place, not moved to Timbucktoo
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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As I said Mr MOFFAT you need to know what you are talking about and I do,this could all be done in one hit as I said.
The company I know are Specialist in do this work and not cowboys,the only burning that MIGHT be needed is geting it out of the ground,but I would have to look at that first.The cost would be high up would only pay out the one time,where at this time they have to keep going back after afew weeks to repair it time after time.WE know it is a building of cast and it would be treated as such when moved.THe company as I said have done it before and bigger,
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I agree the great transport museum we have is in the wrong place its needs to go where 1000s would see it not just a few,and the site you are on about fits that to a T. But also I said this at a public meeting years ago before they moved it to where it is and that was a wast of time,and again we see no forward planning.At that time and still saying now the transport museum could be homed in the castle because your site will cost to much.With the castle plan it could be moved into the now not used officers mess, lots of room outside to to put out displays as well and it would be at home up there and seen by 1000s from allround the world and there is lots of room up there to do it,not a easy site to move the gear etc up there but it could be done.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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We do go round in circles on this thread.
The tram-shelter should stay, but steps should be taken to prevent damage to it every few weeks. I would have thought that the Manager of the CSU and Property Services should get together to come up with a solution - I'll write to them both.
Roger
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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The only forward planning the D.D.C. does is housing and some of that is not good housing. I agree that the tram-shelter will stay where it is, all some of us have said to keep it looking like it does today without keep repairing it is to move it.I do not think I can add anymore.
Guest 767- Registered: 30 Aug 2012
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I agree with Roger, this thread is beginning to make me giddy! But, moveing the shelter to the Castle? 1) EH would not want it, it has nothing to do with the Castle site.2) The new officers barracks (the new name for the officers mess) has plans being made for it.
The shelter must be protected in situ, cctv etc,maybe a neibourhood watch scheme,or friends of the shelter group?
Guest 641- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Well done to the powers that be who are in the middle of refurbishing the new cable car ticket information booth, problem is, isn't it in the wrong place?
But then again, it's a great idea, a connection to the castle from the 'hub' of the newly revamped transport system whereby a passenger vehicle powered by electricity conveyed by overhead cables, running on rails laid in a public road
Guest 767- Registered: 30 Aug 2012
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Why is somebody refurbishing a cablecar information booth when we don't have a cablecar? Who is going to run this thing? Where will it come to ground within the castle and please don,t say by the Port War Signal Station. The ground there is sensitive and protected. The last I heard, some five years ago, was that the Cablecar would cost £8 per head to ride in, plus Castle enterence! Not to mention high winds and a bit of a blot on the landscape! Only in Dover would somebody build an info centre for something we don't have! That is if I read the last entry correctly, if not then my apologies Barry.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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clearly written tongue in cheek phil as are most of mine.
Guest 767- Registered: 30 Aug 2012
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No, not really Howard!
Keith Sansum1
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well iv made suggestions
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Guest 641- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Me, tongue in cheek! as if
The Port War Signal Station is the perfect place, foundations are being laid as we post
Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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Well at least we agree on leaving it where it is Vic...
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Sorry I did not say that,I am all for moving it,I said It will not be moved.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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at least we know another person not supporting it remaining where it is
watch when theres public outcry and he changes his mind(like parties)
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Guest 652- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I approached Mr Michaels of the Westbank Guest House, he was willing at the time for a CCTV fitted, but what he would say now I do not know, still might be worth a try again
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I'll ask him Sheila; if we are sure of funding being available, I'll have to find costs for the camera too.
Roger
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Never mind the CTV, get them benches reinstated. What is the point of turning a shelter into a trap?
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