Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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One could rightly question the wisdom of the wanton expenditure of maintaining the shelter as a 'derelict' structure - with the painting and window replacing - without returning it to close to it's proper condition and purpose.
But if it were to become again a thing of purpose and utility, with seating, if it did therefore offer shelter and become a site of congregation for the young, then any vandalism would adversely effect the very people that make use of it. Who could find it useful one day and useless another day?
For all there being a somewhat natural edict that one should not soil one's own nest, yes, such things do happen, but to a much lesser extent than the soiling and despoiling at places without use or purpose.
Why spend and not invest?
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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By moving it that would be a investment it would be saving part of the history of our great town,but there is only so much repairs that can be done to a very old structure.Anyway as IT as already been said we are going round and round,I have now run out of words to say about it all. Thank you.
Keith Sansum1
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Thats good then, Of course I will remind locals around priory of those willing to fight to keep shelter where it is at the county elections
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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You're not taking up ballet Vic. surely ?
Peter, I don't disagree with your comment, but I still do not think any decision about it will be politically motivated.
Roger
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Yes Roger just testing you (Ballot)
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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My view has nothing to do with ballot boxes or ballet
Just to keep the tram shelter where it is
and i have nothing to gain by campaigning for this
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Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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Hi everyone I have some pleasing information. The
Tram Shelter is
GRADE 2 LISTED. and it will have to stay there for ever and ever -Hurrah!-and be in position for when the trams return to Dover!
http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/en-177853-former-tram-shelter-at-junction-with-elm
Now who doesn't know what he's talking about.
Now then Tram Shelter support people-the bench really ought to be installed-it is listed too you know.
My thanks are due to Paul Wells for his assistance in this matter.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Richard
thanyou and paul wells for the info
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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well done richard i too believe it is only a matter of days before a fully fledged tram service will be plying its trade up and down the folkestone road.
would go into more detail but the nurse is insisting that i go back to my room now and rest until tomorrow.
Brian Dixon
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tell nurse gladys to chill out.
Guest 868- Registered: 25 Jan 2013
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Glad to be of service
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Well shiela good idea a bench in shelter or not?
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Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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Time for your medication Mr McSweeney!
Come on Sheila- insist on the bench. Surely the structure being a listed one, will be able to rely on its owners to bring it up to standard-assisted by its supporters of course!
By the way cheers Paul.
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Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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Have we photos or other data from which to create a working drawing to recreate the bench. Also was there ever an information panel providing details of the tram service in those far off pre - war days..
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Richard
A bench is good but theres some discussions maybe that should take place first maybe?
like local schools etc?
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Guest 868- Registered: 25 Jan 2013
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According to The Tramway Routes of Dover by George Blackburn 1995:
"In 1980 the staff of McKeen Engineering carefully restored the shelter after it had been demolished in an accident"
There is a question raised as to whether it was in it's original position as there trough that is now in the Market Square was the only thing on the corder in photographs prior to 1930 so may have been moved there when the trams closed in 1936
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Yes I was working for that company in the 1980s small but Dav the son was and still is very good tradesman his dad who was the boss died some years ago,and the company was sold off,I was still working for them up till about the 1990s and Dav and myself done a lot of work up at the Western hights which still can be seen today all the windows bars as you go down the staircase we put in,and other work to.The company is closed down been that way for some 10years now.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Vic has said he recalls when it was moved to it's present location.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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No it has always been there in my life time with the trough,and it was never treated like it is today we live in sad times.It has been hit at times over the years by cars lorrys etc, but they were accidents.I even went to sleep in there onenight after a night out.
Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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A very special location then Vic!
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