Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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3 January 2010
10:0136223Fascinating picture Paul. Talking to people recently it looks like the new seafront design is really beginning to get the thumbsup. It didnt appear popular with everyone at the beginning but now it looks a positive runner...so we are going to see some mega changes. The new watersports centre, the new seafront design, a new marina in front of the watersports centre and a cable car whizzing overhead. These changes are happening. It will all look a far cry from Scotchies picture above but it will catapult Dover into the modern age. For once we should embrace change and quit with the dithering!
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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3 January 2010
10:1536224Perhaps the best picture I`ve ever seen of the sea front Paul. Great mate. And PaulB, I haven`t seen the new plans for the front, but hopefully, whatever transpires, I do hope it`s visible from the Eastern and Western docks to tempt through tourists, to maybe stop off and have a visit. 2010, the year of the positive formerite.
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Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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3 January 2010
11:0936231Thanks, it is a shame that the event or date isn't known, but probably a Regatta Day in the very early 1900s (bathing machines still!!)
Here is another slightly later (1920s) with the bandstand
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Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
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3 January 2010
12:1736234Whilst I'm all for embracing change, I remain firmly opposed to the development of a new marina in the harbour. We have a perfectly good one already, and I see the siting of this proposed new one as further erosion of Dover Beach for the sole gain of Dover Harbour Board and its richer clientele.
Bill Fawcus of the DHB has already spoken of the Marina as a done deal, and I hope to God that our councillors will mount a serious opposition to it going ahead; if Scotchie's pictures show one thing, it's that Dover Seafront belongs (and always has done) to the people of the town, and it should be kept that way rather than for the wealthy and privileged.
Perhaps if the new marina does go ahead, the Harbour Board might seek to have Aycliffe airbrushed out so that the yacht owners don't have to look at the plebs?
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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3 January 2010
13:3036237Im apposed to the marina being moved .Dover residents over the years have slowly seen the beach disappear My son has a small yacht and I bet the mooring fees will go up .DDC councillors have received a presentation by Bob Goldfield .I belive this proposal will make it more difficult for the dingy sailors .My understanding is Councillors will not get a vote .DHB can more or less do what they want .I think we get a few crumbs from time to time like an odd glass of wine or a lunch put on by the DHB for the selected few .
These ideas are not for the benefit of the ordinary people of the district .I think you are right about Aycliffe .I did dare to suggest on another thread that some of these Ministers take a bus around our district .All out of sight
On Wednesday Im oing on a fact finding tour of the District with a senior officer from the Regional Housing and Regeneration board .I shall point at the obivious .
I believe The Prince Of Wales pier will take on a new look
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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3 January 2010
17:3436256It will when it's cut in half !
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11 January 2010
17:2837199A view of the beach in 1895.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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11 January 2010
18:3237211Nice one Ed - is that a Friths ?
Here is another odd view post war clearance (well into the 1950s) but pre-Gateway Flats... looks odd
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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11 January 2010
20:2237225paul
kindly explain what a frith is?
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11 January 2010
20:4337230Sorry, Francis Frith
http://www.francisfrith.com
The Frith Collection is recognised as being the only nationally important photographic archive of its kind still in private hands.
The Collection was founded by Francis Frith, the pioneer Victorian photographer, in 1860. Today it contains over 365,000 photographs depicting some 7,000 towns and villages throughout Britain - all taken between 1860 and 1970.
Taken by the photographers of one company, continuously over a 110 year period, the Collection provides an extraordinarily detailed visual record of the enormous social and structural changes that have taken place in Britain since 1860. As such the Collection forms a topographical record of Britain without equal
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Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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11 January 2010
20:4837233They`re certainly great pictures above, and would make a great pictorial book. Was Frith Road named after him?
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Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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11 January 2010
21:3837238Noooooo - not another book, one is enough for the moment !!!
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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11 January 2010
22:0037242thanks for info paul, incredible what we owe people like him.
just looking at that last pic, hardly anything has changed, except for the dress of the people.
they had no style in those days, not a baseball cap or designer trainer to be seen.
Guest 683- Registered: 11 Feb 2009
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11 January 2010
22:2737250Howard, it's Dover alright. The photo should have been one of a sequence. Unfortunately before the next picture was taken the two old boys on the bench got up and assaulted the photographer and nicked his camera otherwise you would have seen that the lady under the parasol on the bench was successful in her soliciting and the boy did urinate on the prom. Plus ca change!
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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12 January 2010
08:0237263We have some Francis Frith framed photos - of St. Albans where I was born and brought up and Barnet where Jean was born - lovely photos, they really are.
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12 January 2010
09:1137274Great pictures lads, absolutely great. I always personally find it a bit thrilling to see where I am living now in its earlier years. When I went along to Scotchies book launch there was an ongoing slide show being shown of the town as it was once - fascinating.
Wot!? no Gateway in the shots...!! You mean there was life here before The Gateway!
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12 January 2010
16:1237302I have a number of concerns over this proposed scheme:
1 given it has not started will it be finished in mid 2010?
2. does this spell the end of the regatta as we know it as it seems to significantly reduce the width of the pedestrian area
3. the 2 shelters at the DHB end of the prom do not appear in the artists impression, will they disappear?
4. will the eastern entrance to Marine PArade be improved to afford easier vehicle access?
5. will there be better signage on the roads and in town so people can actually get there?
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Guest 673- Registered: 16 Jun 2008
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12 January 2010
16:2237304Scotchie:
Not a Friths. There is a small legend "Andre & Sleigh" in the bottom right hand corner. Underneath that it says "From Photo by Poulton & Son, Lee, S.E.
I received this one off Ebay yesterday. Photos of the beach are ten-a-penny but I thought this was a particularly good one with an unusually wide expanse of beach showing and also all the work is done for me - it is already mounted in a 10x8" mount!
Have scores of old prints and photos of Dover and want to get them all framed and line the stairwell down to the front door. As you know, this is an old Victorian building so it is rather grand. We have just redecorated the stairwell so there is an acre of virgin blank white wall space begging for just such adornment.
The floor above us is occupied by an ex Grenadier guard and the top one above that is occupied by someone who works at the Tower of London so they already have every square inch of wall space down the stairwell to us packed with intriguing framed prints.
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12 January 2010
18:1137317You certainly have a good place for it, wish I could get mine framed :)
That one is quite interesting, the difference in beach level is quite surprising, probably a result of the Admiralty Harbour
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Work is definately moving on, surprised no-one has mention all the mew flagpoles :)
Here is a very high resolution link:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/doverpast/4731143624/sizes/l/in/photostream/Been nice knowing you :)
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