Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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I was shaken out of my early evening stupor when I suddenly saw Trevor Bond on my BBCTV screen last night. Local character Trevor, Australian by heritage but we wont hold that against him, was complaining that local people dont want to work. Trevor is general manager up at the Marina Hotel along the seafront, which was featured on the programme and in fact overall Trevor manages three hotels according to the programme, but he sighed deeply over the local work ethic. People turn up for two days then dont show up after that was the gist of it and generally prefer to stay in bed and stay on benefits. The hotel have a terrible time it seems recruiting local staff as people dont want to work. They are therefore very happy to employ immigrants who do want to work and have the skills to match the job. There is a supreme skill shortage..this was the plaintive cry.
Several talking heads were on the fairly long feature..
first pic here shows Rumanian Crista Buznea who is a sales executive with the hotel and very glad of the job and they in turn are glad to have her...
Immediately below we see Trevor himself bemoaning the state of play..."back in Australia if we didnt work we didnt eat" said Trevor.
Paul Carter also featured. Paul is of course leader at KCC and said..
"There are those people that don't want to get out of bed in the morning and go to work but I think the vast majority of people do want a decent job."
The programmes reporter then went and interviewed people up outside the Job Centre and all said they were very keen to work. Of course on these programmes you never get the guy who says..."I'm not working..you must be joking.. I prefer benefits"
This is a topic we have often talked about before but to see the problem brought home to us by a very local hotel, just 500 metres from my computer as the crow flies, gives you a wake up call.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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This echoes a similar case in Ashford recently.
The only answer is to cut benefits. If people are happy not to work and/or can smoke, afford mobile phones and Sky on benefits then they are getting far too much. We must get back to a short term safety net only for out of work benefits.
As for skills, the simple skill of getting out of bed would help many.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Hear hear Barry
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Doctors will still get paid if they strike I read today, I despair
Guest 744- Registered: 20 Mar 2012
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David you took the words right out of my mouth. My husband has been made redundant several times but always found work until the last occasion. The state benevolently gave him six months' job seeker's allowance and that was it. Having clocked up over 80 years between us paying our dues, taxes etc that was a kick in the teeth when we see people all around us scrounging off the state and not knowing what work is. And how do all these fraudsters manage to live abroad whilst claiming benefits when my husband had to report on a fortnightly basis? Do they get "doubles" to report to the DSS for them?
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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"...but I think the vast majority of people do want a decent job."
Were there interviews with the kitchen staff, with the porters, the cleaners?
Might there be too many people making money out of money and not actually producing anything?
The UK appears to be a Hotel of sorts. Where some think themselves as honoured guests and constantly praise/gripe that the staff cannot do enough for them?
Not so many decent staff about to have a manager for each Hotel though? Where is the incentive or opportunity for promotion if all the top jobs are done by one man?
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Every hotel has to have its beds made and its plates washed, too many people think its beneath the. Ive done both in the past, there may come a time in the future when I have to again, thats preferable to being unemployed.
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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It seems to me that different people, see this type of topic not as it actually is but how they want it to be, just to have a moan and project their point of view.
Far from being surrounded by scroungers, I know that my son applied to this Hotel for a job, as did several of his friends when it openedand he has certainly not got a reply from them and as far as he knows, none of the others have either. Oh and by the way, he is struggling along on part time work, rather than signing on.
There are far more kids like him and ones wanting to work, than there is of the ones that are being slagged off on this thread but then, some just do not want to see that side of it because it does not fit in with their stream of thought.
"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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The nail-head has reason to fear you Gary.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 735- Registered: 19 Dec 2011
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It's a generation of (some) people who feel they deserve a living as opposed to earning one!!
Having experienced it first hand... I relate to Trevor's frustrations.
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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No-one is disputing the "some" Kyle
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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They interviewed one out-of-work young local who admitted that foreigners were 'prepared to work longer hours than I am'.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Brian Dixon
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i think that apart from the hard graft entailed with hotel work in genrael,its a low paid job ie,minimum wage or less which put people off working in that enviroment.
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I saw that. Being a UCP (Unusually Cruel Parent
) I've always insisted that any money the kids get, they work for and as for working hours, always led by example.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Not as minimum as the dole, Brian. Of course the dole still allows you time for your social life. 48x£6.08x52 is £15,175 per annum which is a living wage.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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may be not peter,but evan if they are working there,they still some benifits which defeats the object of working in the first place.[tax creadits] to boost income.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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When I was in banking I regularly worked 60+ hours a week in the office - plus a daily commute from East Kent to the City. I do have a problem with youngsters who aren't prepared to put in the hours.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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# 8...is reality,but there will always be the `some`who will receive the standard generalisation cliche.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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a very tiny minority are actually lazy, i know of two seperate cases of youngsters applying for jobs at that hotel when it first opened and neither got a reply.
