Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#101
Only ladys the reds said only ladys to stand this time round,so it will be only ladys that vote for her.
Keith Sansum1
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#102
Charlie lost his way
its claire or charlie
my monies on claire
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#103
The blues need Mr Walkins to stand again to save the day.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#104
less chance than charlie proved before
only chance is getting someone new but probably to late
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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#105
My Eastleigh experience was enough - I won't stand for election in 2015
I wanted to try to help Labour, but having my memoir dredged for 'dark secrets' and trial by social media was no laughing matter
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/mar/01/eastleigh-wont-stand-for-election-2015 Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#106
The citizens want change there views are not being listened to
All parties need to take this on board
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#107
Dover's latest election result at St.Rads was a 10% turnout.
This was the lowest ever in history, or thereabouts, and must be seen as a general disaffection from all things political.
So at St. Radigund's, 90% of the people are not interested in voting for a councillor.
This is projecting a snapshot of Dover's interest in politics.
My view is that people tend to believe that politicians do not represent the needs of the people or take into account what they say. Or will twist things to their own (already decided) decisions.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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#108
i notesed that ukip didnt have a candidate in st rads.byelection.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#109
Why should they? the reds was always going to win it with a low or high poll,I did stand there last time but it is and always will be the reds power house. so it would have be a wast of time.The blues were of the same mind they did not stand or the yellows.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#110
Lets get some reality into all of this.
Eastleigh;
Without doubt Labour picked the wrong candidate, probably with good intention, but to be fair labour has never won the seat which in reality is(or should be) a tory seat.
The lib dems did do well with all the problems they have/had to hold the seat
without doubt UKIP did well, but thats all they did, they didnt get the breakthrough, and farrage now must be kicking himself for not being the candidate.
But clearly it was a protest vote against the conservative govt.
even admitted by the mouse himself.
The tories coming third is a nightmare for the mouse, and the party at large, in a seat that the conservatives must win to get overall control at the next election.
Of course even more conservative associations will distance themselves from the mouse and even more splits open up.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#111
Mr Farrage would have made it this lady was not well know even in Eastleigh but we are where we are ,it was some time ago I asked Mr Farrage to stand in Dover next time round I do not know if he will or not at this time,but my feeling are he will not.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#112
#100 The day Keith is unbiased will be the day RedEd tells people to vote Conservative.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#113
think it was an unbiased comment barryw on all the parties
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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#114
I hope the message gets across to the 50% that are not being mentioned. The 50% that did not vote. Perhaps they and their like around the country get the message loud and clear: If you are not in the count you do not matter.
The swings this way and that, the gains and the losses and the simple majority would be as nothing if the electorate made themselves count.
It cannot be simply a matter of waiting for the Political Partys to seek them out, all need to come to terms with the fact that in a Democracy it is the Voter that wields the power.
One day soon that penny will drop.
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Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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#115
Exit surveying has shown the UKIP vote was a protest against all the major parties - unless you happen to be a Labour supporter like Keith when any result will always be a protest against the Conservatives.
There's also a good prospect that many postal voters would have voted differently if leaving their voting to polling day and UKIP might well have won.
It was much the same at the St Rads election, an independent got a very high vote against the incumbent party as a protest against party politics ruling over what the town needs.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,931
#116
Tom, the trouble is that some of that 50% know they wield the power when it comes to voting then once elected the politicians do just as they like, as a result the electorate feel they are wasting their time popping to the polling station.
Promises, promises, promises until elected and that is ALL parties
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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#117
Entirely correct Jan, there IS something missing.
In the meantime, if Voter registration went up a 'price' war would begin, and who knows but some real policies could emerge.
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#118
In her last news letter, in January, Marta Andreasen wrote that she believed Nigel Farage would stand at the Eastleigh by-election, convinced he would make it for UKIP.
When he didn't stand, but decided instead to campaign from behind the camera while sending someone else forward as candidate. something must have snapped.
As we can see now, UKIP almost made it, with not many votes separating them from the LibDem winner.
Had Farage stood, he'd have taken the bold step, and probably won; but by dithering about, he lost the occasion.
It is not clear whether he will get another chance like that, or whether he actually has the courage to stand up and be counted at the polls. If Farage is afraid of personally losing, while being presented nationwide as UKIP's main - and only - protagonist, then he will lose the support of many other prominent UKIP members.
In a one-man party, the one man doing it all is at least expected to stand up and either win or lose, not stand back and send others forward into the fray, only to be chopped down on the field at the poll-count.
People might follow a one-man party, so long as the one man is prepared to challenge and either stand or fall, but not if he lounges back and sends others forward to fall for him.
Only the courageous win!
Watch this:
Guest 673- Registered: 16 Jun 2008
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#119
An inspirational video, Alex. I note from one of the comments that Hot Rod does it even better - see the infamous Coconut incident with Jimmy Snuka, the toilet seat incident with King Harley Race and the legendary Frankie Williams incident.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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#120
Thank you Alex...I think.
Ye canna beat the skirl o the pipes.
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