Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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the price of onions howard.
french ones that are grown in bulgaria and romainia.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Are you sure they are onions Brian, not horse chestnuts?
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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oninions peter,not conkers,
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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whos the favourite to win?
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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If the Tories come third that will be a big nail.............
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Tories and lib dems looking dismal
all up for grabs this seat
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Sixpence half a crown for Cameron and Cleggy...........one may enjoy the gloat........
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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yellows are still firm favourites, the real issue is whether ukip grab second place which would cause great embarrassment to dave.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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such a marginal seat
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I think UKIP will get this one giving them their first MP and then the flood gates will open and we will see them geting more cllrs etc,over the next few years. That is just my gut feeling do not read anything into that then whatI have wrote.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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absoultly no chance
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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David Cameron's leadership will be in crisis if the Conservatives come third in the Eastleigh byelection behind the Liberal Democrats and Ukip, the prominent rightwing Tory David Davis has warned.
His remarks, before the critical by-election for the coalition partners, reflect Conservative concern that the main route to an overall majority at the next election will be blocked if Tories cannot capture a string of Liberal Democrat seats.
Eleven of the Tories' top 43 target seats are held by the Lib Dems, and senior Conservatives are preparing for a bitter inquest if they fail to capture Eastleigh.
Davis said: "I think if we came third it would be a crisis, I think that's the case, and if it's a close second with Ukip on our tail it will also be uncomfortable."
He insisted neither result would dislodge Cameron. "He's going to be there till the next election, but the simple truth is that it will make things more uncomfortable in the House of Commons."
Nick Clegg, campaigning in Eastleigh, insisted the Lib Dems were on the "cusp of a great, great victory" for their candidate, local councillor Mike Thornton.
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Courtesy Daily Telegraph.............
Senior Conservatives conceded that they could be pushed into third place by Ukip, despite the Prime Minister having pledged to hold a referendum on Britain's membership of the EU.
Chris Grayling, the Justice Secretary, warned on Wednesday night that a "vote for Ukip is effectively a vote for the Lib Dems" because it would split Tory support.
A Lib Dem win would be a major blow for Mr Cameron because the by-election is being held as Mr Clegg's party faces a sexual harassment scandal and follows the resignation of the previous Lib Dem MP, Chris Huhne, after he admitted perverting the course of justice.
The Conservatives would be unlikely to win the next general election without winning seats such as Eastleigh.
Both the Tories and the Lib Dems said that turnout would prove crucial today, with strategists unsure over whether the allegations surrounding Lord Rennard would deter Mr Clegg's supporters from voting at the last minute. Senior Conservatives were preparing for a defeat that would heap pressure on Mr Cameron's leadership and George Osborne's position as Chancellor.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Will the tories realy go that far down,
its showing the affect of protest parties
doing enough to stop one or other of the 3 major parties winning#
but never doing much to win them selves
just protest
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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don't knock it keith the reds do well on the back of it.
Guest 673- Registered: 16 Jun 2008
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Stating "A vote for Ukip is effectively a vote for the Lib Dems" is a fast one that the current major parties love to pull.
If enough voters are deterred in this way from voting for the party that they really want to vote for then we shall never see an end to this relentless swapping back and forth between the parties who have enjoyed power for the last century.
The major parties have had their day and none of them represent what they originally stood for. In most areas there is not a cigarette paper between them and they merely tinker at the edges of the dismal legacy left by their predecessor.
A vote for Ukip is a vote for a genuine alternative and we must hope for the sake of true democracy and a real choice that they get a good result in Eastleigh.
That they have well and truly put the wind up the major parties is amply demonstrated by the way in which the old Red and Blue warhorses on here never fail to pooh pooh their chances at every opportunity.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the major parties look more and more out of touch with the people as years go by and rely on votes from people that have voted red or blue all of their life.
i don't see any great change coming soon irrespective of the result of this by-election, ukip have thrown everything into this one and have had supporters from all over the country down their canvassing, stuffing envelopes etc. will be vastly different at general election time with 600 odd constituencies to be worked. the other big problem ukip have is one of being seen as a one man party by many, everyone knows who nigel farage is but not the others who would form his front bench.
Guest 673- Registered: 16 Jun 2008
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Yes indeed. Probably the same could be said of any other political party in its formative years. Ukip, or any other new party, needs an initial breakthrough in order to reach critical mass and commence the expansion to become a serious national alternative.
The extraordinary success of Beppe Grillo and his Five-Star Movement (M5S) in the Italian elections shows that it can be done.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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two very different countries ed, we would never let someone like berlusconi reach high office and the italians have a habit of voting in non political mp's as a rebuff to the mainstream parties. i can remember a porn actress getting elected many years ago.
getting back to ukip attracting big names this could happen if they make the breakthrough tonight with a couple of ambitious blue m.p.'s that only see defeat coming in 2015 deciding to throw their lot in .