- Keith Sansum1 - Location: london
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 - 21 December 2010 17:3285925
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- 21 December 2010 17:3885928
- Nick Clegg redeemed? Not going to happen. LibDems foot is shot away. 
- Keith Sansum1 - Location: london
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 - 21 December 2010 17:3985929
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 - 21 December 2010 18:0985934
- I do hope Jan, Paul & others are right, if WFA is stopped and Bank bonuses are allowed to stay, there would be no excuses any coalition politician could use to justify those decisions. - "My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum" 
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 - 21 December 2010 18:2485937
- I do not see any connection between the two, different issues totally, Gary.
 
 On the subject of bank bonuses, I have no problem with the government involving itself in respect of those banks that received a bail-ouit as it is a shareholder.  They do need to take care over damaging the City's competitive position though.   A lot of overseas income generation and jobs for the UK depend on that.
 
 Those banks that did not get any bail-out should be left alone because government has no place involving itself in their remuneration strategy.
 
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 - 21 December 2010 18:3085938
- It seems not to be looking good for Cable.  There seems to be some coming and going at no10 and key people are not making themselves available for interview.   Lots of tweets going on about Cable's position deteriating.  The latest is that Andrew Mitchell, recently arrived at no10 will be the next Business Secretary....
 
 We shall see.
 
 Be good for the coalition for Cable to be sacked.
 
- howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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 - 21 December 2010 18:3585939
- be even better for nick, he will be able to say that it was that nasty cable bloke that forced him into the tuition fee hike.
 
 there is talk of david laws coming back, doubtful though with the report on his behaviour awaiting publication.
 
- howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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 - 21 December 2010 18:3685940
- just heard that he will be staying in the cabinet but not as business secretary. 
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 - 21 December 2010 18:3985945
- Political betting thinks that the 'war on Murdoch' claim will save him.  Not because he was right making such a crass statement but because DC and NC will not want anyone to claim he was sacked for that comment.
 
 Interesting to see how this develops, it might be more effective to just demote him rather than sack him.
 
- 21 December 2010 18:5985946
- David Laws would be a refreshing and welcome prodigal. 
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 - 21 December 2010 19:0285947
- Jeremy Hunt has been given responsibility over media competition removing Cable from that role.  That is the minimum that had to be done.
 
 Cable has certainly been humiliated today and significantly weakened.  Not a bad thing and I should think that DC will be quite happy at this.
 
 I agree with you about Laws Bern but he cannot return to government until he has been cleared of wrongdoing (and if).  He is an able man who I certainly hope to see return to Cabinet though he is an LD.
 
- 21 December 2010 19:1185948
- Part one complete, then. Cables card has been marked, and the next phase starts. It was always on the radar that he would be "got". 
- howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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 - 21 December 2010 19:3885952
- the elevation of mr hunt from culture secretary will be a disappointment for those of us who appreciate spoonerisms. 
- Keith Sansum1 - Location: london
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 - 21 December 2010 19:4285953
- its the end of cable
 
 
 and its the crumble of the coolition
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- howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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 - 21 December 2010 19:5185955
- no chance keith, cable i still there and the coalition will run it's course.
 as a red i would have thought that the last thing you would want is a general election.
 
 the new leader needs at least 2 years to get up and running, he has to find out who he can trust then sit down with them and flesh out new policies.
 
- Keith Sansum1 - Location: london
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 - 21 December 2010 19:5685956
- Howard;
 mine was just a viewpoint, as to whether(or not)labour and others are ready for the co olition to crumble is another matter
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- Brian Dixon - Location: Dover
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 - 21 December 2010 20:1485958
- vince cable on the back benchs,to dangerous for the condems,if he gets put there that would be the death knoll of the condems as reported on the 6 o clock news.   
- Keith Sansum1 - Location: london
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 - 21 December 2010 20:1985959
- Brian thats the problem cleggy has
 at the moment the lib dems are unelectable.
 
 to keep cable means the end of the lib dems as we know them
 
 as you say to demote or sack him will cause mayhem
 
 thankfully cleggy cant win
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 - 21 December 2010 20:1985960
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- Unregistered User - 21 December 2010 20:4385967
- As I posted earlier Cable is like Clare Short. 
 
 
 The longer he stays the more impotent he becomes and his credibility drops further.
 
 
 He won't be a hero on the backbenches because he has already sold out.
 
 
 Who will gather round him.
 
 
 He's gone whether sacked now or later or even does the" honourable thing "and resigns.
 
 
 Will the Murdoch media leave him alone?
 
 Watty