Bob Whysman
- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
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Karlos wrote:https://www.kent.gov.uk/roads-and-travel/road-projects/in-progress-road-projects/active-travel-fund-projects#tab-2
Update on the trial
We have decided to remove this temporary facility and return both lanes to their previous capacity.
Whilst the scheme was implemented to promote the use of cycling as an alternative to the motorised vehicle, as highway authority we do have a responsibility to manage congestion on the network. As our scheme removed 50% of the vehicular capacity this has had a detrimental impact on queuing and delays. Officers have been monitoring this regularly and adjusting the signal timings appropriately, but with The Dover Traffic Access Protocol (TAP) in place we are of the view that the trial scheme would cause adverse congestion on local roads. Therefore, the decision has been made to remove the scheme.
Loosely translated.......”It was a cockup.”
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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Good to read this KCC about turn, especially as it looks like they might be working again at the old sorting office building sight. I can just imagine the extra chaos there would have been with lorries blocking the road so they can reverse in as they were so many months ago.
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Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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Am I the only one that finds it amazing that
Officers
And our 2, county councillors
Beresford and collor (who would have agreed this )
Didn't realise the effect it would have on traffic flow ?
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Pedro- Registered: 13 Oct 2017
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I'm glad someone listened, but sorry that Keith is making political capital out of this. Even worse, I'm old-fashioned enough to think that use of surnames only belongs in the past. Can you tell us how you know that the councillors agreed this, please?
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I am glad that the road has been put back to the way it was,
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TheThinWhiteDuke- Registered: 7 Jul 2016
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Woohoo!
Love it when people can listen and observe and admit they got it wrong (and relatively quickly). It seems like such a dying art these days.
TheThinWhiteDuke wrote:
I said the same thing when they widened the Barton Road pavement between Beaconsfield and Limes Road, supposedly as a cycle path. Barton Path is literally a stones throw away and is/was already a cycle path. Effectively turned that bit of road into single lane and took away parking spaces.
I see Bridge Street is up for overnight closure soon. Hope it's to sort out the drainage by the bridge. They'd only just sorted it out there and then they resurfaced the road and managed to fill all of the drainage holes with tarmac
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I doubt if they'll ever go back on Barton Road, but does anyone know what they did in Bridge Street? If anything? Probably just the necessary annual trimming of the trees/weeds on the opposite side from the drains that, if not trimmed back, effectively close the pavement.
Having walked that way in the rain tonight I reiterate that those drainage gulleys really need to be looked at.
Why not just drill a few deep holes so that the rain can drain directly into The Dour?.
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Button
- Location: Dover
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(Not my real name.)
Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
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Their excuse was that Stack and TAP was the reason for the u-turn , not that it was an idiot idea to begin with.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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So our councillors agreed to its being put in place ?
People power made them rethink
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Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
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Or was it sprung on them and It was them that lobbied to have it removed?
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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Karlos wrote:Their excuse was that Stack and TAP was the reason for the u-turn , not that it was an idiot idea to begin with.
Hardly a surprise, groups with even a modicum of power hate to admit they were wrong.
Keith, I have read the following by Roger Walkden, so there were at least two of our
active present day councillors who were not happy.
"Well done to you and Nigel for pressuring Kent Highways.
Well done to everyone who wrote to them."
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Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,101
But "The scheme has been arranged at short notice due to the need to commit funds quickly without the usual level of engagement and consultation."
Other people's money so GOT to spend it.
See Dover Rapid Bus Thingy and many others (Shepway/Dover recycling grant for example!).
STOP spending money just because you can DDC.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Yes Bob that’s the ticket.I think our buses need funding .Get more of us on public transport .
Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
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As I pointed out in post #22 this is government money allocated to county councils to advance the government's 'green' agenda. It can only be spent on projects which advance that agenda. If phase 1 money isn't spent, the phase 2 money won't happen. It's touching of the Captain and others wilfully to misunderstand this simple point in order to provide cover, but unfortunately your national Tory friends are to blame.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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This crap started when Cameron's government did it as a sop to keep the Lib Dem coalition on side. (See recycling Shepway/Dover. DDC were so suprised to get it that they didn't know what to do with it!).
If phase 1 isn't spent etc indeed.
Just STOP spending money unless you have a decent project to spend it on.. and start taxing people less?
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Don't tell me; tell your mates. Better still, tell your local MP.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Have done. Spent eight years on DDC 'banging my head against a soft brick wall' (don't even get the satisfaction of head hurting!)
Sorted out scandal of Deal Pier without revealing too much of scandal. Enough?
Greeting from Devizes on the K&A. Destination board still reads'further'.
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Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
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There was piece on the BBC news mainly about another unwanted scheme in Westgate and there's going to be something on BBC local politics programme Sunday 10am.
Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
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So, just walked along Maison Dieu Road, the left lane is empty because the bus/cycle lane markings are still in the road and vehicles are swerving across into the right lane.
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