Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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No need for shortcuts, the main Russian base is at Latakia on the Syrian coast.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Dover doing its bit but going by some of the comments on social media we could be forgiven for thinking they were coming here in their thousands.
http://www.dover-express.co.uk/14-things-refugee-entitled-arrive-Dover/story-27952353-detail/story.htmlCaptain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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I really don't understand why we are taking any refugees at all.
Japan for example, under the same 1951 agreement, gave asylum to 11 in total of the 5000+ applicants last year. They have less than 2% of foreign nationals in their country, a higher GDP than us, the lowest crime rate of any industrialised society and somehow have enough home grown workers to man their hospitals, drive their public transport and pick their seasonal fruit and vegetables.
What is this strange guilt trip that we seem to have embarked upon, when having been born in a fairly affluent and civilised society, we seem determined to change it all, by not only adding over 600000 immigrants a year but now also taking in some of the 6 million displaced people of the world, which looking at the scale of the problem will be about as much use as homeopathic medicine?
Interestingly the State of Israel, which one might think post WW2 would have a liberal view to those in trouble, has only granted asylum to just over 200 people during its entire existence.
This is why Israel is still a Jewish State and Japan is still wonderfully Japanese, and long may they continue to be so.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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77 under 18's arrived in Kent at the weekend and swiftly moved on out of the county due to there being no more places to put them in.
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/kcc-says-influx-of-asylum-44628/Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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and we the tax payer are piking up the tab.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Good to see the immigration bill past to knight ,and stopped labour watering it down
Charley boy sat on the front bench ,now all he needs to do is stop the fool Cameron giving more of our cash away
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The welcome mat seems to be wearing thin now with these transit zones and an expectation of 40% applicants being rejected and sent straight away to the nearest safe country.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/refugee-crisis-angela-merkel-s-transit-zones-are-like-concentration-camps-say-opposition-mps-a6692746.htmlhoward mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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KCC pulling up the drawbridge to unaccompanied children as they have no places left to house them, extra social workers being drafted in from agencies to cover those already here.
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/kent-will-not-accept-any-45124/Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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its about time they woke up and smelt the coffee.
Bob Whysman
- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
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It looks like another potential front for the immigrants/refugees has been opened up........the question is by whom? Military bases being compromised now?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/21/refugee-boats-akotiri-uk-military-base-in-cyprus
Previous arrivals situation:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/21/refugee-families-marooned-raf-base-cyprusDo nothing and nothing happens.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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All looks very planned leaving the UK and Cyprus passing the buck between each other. We will have to see whether this is a new twist and the wealthier ones arrive in greater numbers in Akrotiri.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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With more borders being closed and the weather getting bad a summit is being held to reach a speedy solution, I cannot see all the countries agreeing on a single course of action though.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34631365Captain Haddock
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So EU and Balkans agree plan for 100,000 'refugee' places (56,000 migrants arrived Greece alone last week) DO THE MATHS.
http://gu.com/p/4dj39/stw
And for all those who blame the EU I'd be fascinated to know how the situation would be any different if the EU had never existed and each country was a 'sovereign state'.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Bob Whysman
- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
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It looks like someone may have done their maths Captain Haddock. They could be trying to separate the 'refugee' numbers from the total migrants.
Much of the rest could be a pretty big army with between 1,500 to 2000 making up a regiment so perhaps the figures will add up eventually! Maybe then the EU will not exist and neither would there be any 'sovereign states'.
Aren't figures fascinating?!

Do nothing and nothing happens.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Austria now building a wall to control the numbers coming in from Slovenia and Germany planning to send back any Afghans trying to claim asylum.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34657187Bob Whysman
- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
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Brian Dixon wrote:and we the tax payer are piking up the tab.
Do nothing and nothing happens.