howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Reginald Barrington
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Easy enough to do, if they had the union's I imagine they would have already done it.
Arte et Marte
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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but the public will not vote for open borders .
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If Labour could shake off the loony left and its union paymasters and become a proper social democratic party it would be a formidable power in politics. A Phoenix exercise would seem logical.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Paul M- Registered: 1 Feb 2016
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Keith Bibby wrote:but the public will not vote for open borders .
48% of them did just last week.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Hmm ... you mean like Roy Jenkins and the 'gang of four'. The SDP was a roaring success wasn't it? All they did was guarantee us prolonged Thatcherism.
Never give up...
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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The labour party have just craped all over the lower payed British working class.By voting to let all EU workers stay in the uk labour market
Remember this in 2020 .
Brian Dixon
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kieth,what are we going to do with out them,i cant see the great unwashed taking the jobs you suggest
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I think Kinnock is correct in describing Corbyn as vain in not stepping down despite having little support from his fellow MP's I think he would actually prefer to keep the party in opposition so he can keep his holier than thou stance.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/08/neil-kinnock-labour-vote-against-jeremy-corbyn-euCaptain Haddock
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Keith Bibby wrote:but the public will not vote for open borders .
The problem was that to move to Europe I would need variously a job contract, health insurance, proof of accommodation and a carte de residence.
To move to the UK from the EU all one needs is something purporting to be an EU travel document.
The Treaty of Rome was about movement of labour, not unskilled chancers.
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Negotiations with the unions and spearheaded by Tom Watson have ended in deadlock, as a result Angela Eagle has announced that on Monday she will trigger a leadership election.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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There are rumours that Tom Watson has been seen in the Islington branch of Lakeland purchasing an ice-pick.
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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The reality is the membership is out of step with the parliamentary party .eventually the biggest will win after D selection.
Wining over the working class majority voter is another thing.
I don’t see this happening with the present party stuck in denial over the immigration elephant in the room
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Looks like Corbyn will survive after all I can only think that the party will now split into two. Problem is there doesn't seem to be a natural leader, the most qualified don't want the role.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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where eagles dare
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Getting confusing now as the NEC has decided that people have to be members for 6 months to be eligible to vote they then say that the £3 brigade will have to re-register and pay the full £25 to vote.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Owen Smith has join the leadership race and is trying to woo Corbyn's young supporters by promising them a second Referendum. Considering the earliest he could be Prime Minister is 2020 rather a pointless offer.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The Nec have closed another loophole to stop infiltrators who cottoned on to the fact that they could register with various unions and socialist societies for a few quid and get a vote but now it transpires that they will still have to be members for 6 months.
