howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#1
Paul M- Registered: 1 Feb 2016
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#2
A great opportunity for the Labour party to rid themselves of the clown currently in charge. It's up to them, either choose a credible and electable leader or lose hundreds of seats at the next election, whenever that may be. I hope they get it right because this country, more than ever, needs a strong
opposition.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#3
Fully agree the only two that I can think of likely to win an election for them would be Hilary Benn or Dan Jarvis, the latter didn't stand the last time due to family reasons. The trouble is all these people that joined the party for £1 decide who the leader will be so Corbyn will not be ousted. UKIP will be rubbing their hands with glee.
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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#4
This is Labour's opportunity to take back the party from the 3 quid brigade - it must do that. As tragic as it is, there is an uncontested by-election coming up so the perfect opportunity to parachute somebody into Parliament, if that is desired. David MIliband, for example, rejoining now would turn politics on its head - for the better.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#5
Not so sure about David Miliband, I thought he should have been chosen as leader before but his gormless brother won. Sounds silly but the name will bring back bad memories of his brother's reign at the top.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#6
William Hill agree with me, mind you they had remain 3 to 1 on the day before the referendum.
9/2
Dan Jarvis
5/1
Hilary Benn
13/2
Tom Watson
7/1
John McDonnell
8/1
Chuka Umunna
8/1
Lisa Nandy
10/1
David Miliband
14/1
Angela Eagle
14/1
Keir Starmer
16/1
Heidi Alexander
16/1
Owen Smith
20/1
Andy Burnham
20/1
Clive Lewis
20/1
Sadiq Khan
20/1
Stephen Kinnock
25/1
Rachel Reeves
25/1
Yvette Cooper
33/1
Alan Johnson
33/1
Caroline Flint
33/1
Tristram Hunt
40/1
Stella Creasy
50/1
Chris Leslie
50/1
Emily Thornberry
50/1
Emma Reynolds
50/1
Gloria De Piero
50/1
Harriet Harman
50/1
Liz Kendall
50/1
Lucy Powell
50/1
Michael Dugher
50/1
Rosie Winterton
66/1
Ed Balls
66/1
Jim McMahon
66/1
Maria Eagle
66/1
Mary Creagh
100/1
Simon Danczuk
100/1
Vernon Coaker
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Brian Dixon
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#8
Hillary benn has the balls to do the job
Paul M- Registered: 1 Feb 2016
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#9
Dan Jarvis is an exceptional talent and if he were to be elected as leader I think he'd immediately open up a ten point lead against whoever the Tories elect.
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#10
It would be ironic if Hillary Benn got the job his dad always coveted!
Lew Finnis
Paul M- Registered: 1 Feb 2016
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#11
Or Stephen Kinnock.
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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#12
The Labour party is now like a FTSE 100 company which regrets floating on the stock exchange. The Chairman, Corbyn, enjoys the support of the shareholders - aka three quid brigade, but not the Board of Directors - aka the shadow Cabinet. Today, the CEO aka Tom Watson, will deliver his go now verdict to Corbyn - who will simply stand again and the same champagne socialists will re-elect him.
Listening to the guy from Momentum yesterday, I was struck by how genuinely correct they believe their stance to be, yet how utterly naive he was to high politics. And from a union perspective, I will never understand how they can be happy with manufacturing it that their guy has now been in post for 6 years, yet Labour has crashed to a point of irrelevance over that period. Surely better to get elected as a party first and then fight from within?!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#13
The party has gone back to the days when egotists like Hatton and Heffer made big speeches at conference and the faithful lapped it up not caring what the wider public thought. Corbyn likes to play the victim and is totally unfit to lead a party and the fact that he refuses to resign tells me that he is more interested in himself than the future of Labour.
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Paul M- Registered: 1 Feb 2016
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#14
Indeed. History repeating itself? Perhaps we could have the birth of a new SDP type of political party?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#15
Possibility Paul but that would leave a right wing Conservative party to run riot with more austerity and lower taxes for the rich. Having said that there must be a strong possibility that the Blues could split in two. The next leader and his/her cabinet will be all brexiters whilst the majority of back benchers wanted to remain in the UK.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#16
Jezza hosting a meeting of his latest shadow cabinet.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#17
Apparently 60,000 new members have joined in the last week, I suspect most have an agenda to keep Jeremy Corbyn in power whether they are from the lunatic fringe or just members of other parties.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#18
The bookies have Angela Eagle favourite to be next leader at 3/1 with David Miliband and Owen Smith both at 4/1 surprising as the former is not even an MP.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#19
Typical of the fat cat union barons that they want control of the party even though their members lose out under a Tory government.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/03/trade-unions-can-broker-a-peace-for-labour-says-len-mccluskeyGuest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#20
Only a matter of time before the sensible Labour MPs break away and form a separate party outside the orbit and influence of the loony left.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
