Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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Honestly, Keith, I'm not as clued up as I should be on the May local elections. Let's see how we go. A good opportunity to learn lessons, good and bad, ahead of the GE.
Keith Sansum1
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Thats an unusual cop out by you Neil.
I can only report of people telling me they have no idea who the candidate is, not even had a leaflet!
Although this is true of other parties, I would assume locally Labour would be hoping to take control?
I'm sure the many reasons iv highlighted over the years has come home to roost .
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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i can't speak for other wards of course, but I've had 2 visits from Mr Tapp and his cohorts. Thus far, not a peep from the others. I would have expected our masonic friend to have at least put in an appearance by now. Must be too busy down the lodge.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Ray
I think your lucky
Many hadn't seen either of the main parties, which is strange when both should be out to win those two seats and could affect the outcome of the control of the district council.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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I forgot that I've also had a visit from our aspiring independent. Rather than put his self- aggrandizing missive through my letterbox, he saw fit instead to open my from door without knocking and present himself. Fortunately only I was at home. I'd prefer to give my vote to someone with sufficient intelligence to understand common courtesy.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Now I wonder who that is
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Captain Haddock
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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A clear demarcation between Labour and the Tories. Huge credit to Labour for putting the hopes and dreams of young people ahead of the NIMBY instinct.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Possibly the most ludicrous comparison imaginable.
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Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
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Neil Moors wrote:A clear demarcation between Labour and the Tories. Huge credit to Labour for putting the hopes and dreams of young people ahead of the NIMBY instinct.
Here we go
Farthingloe
No more NIMBY
Nor AONB
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Button wrote:Here we go
Farthingloe
No more NIMBY
Nor AONB
Please tell me that you don't think Farthingloe (with its main driving force residing in Cambodia) was about fulfilling the hopes and dreams of young Dovorians to get on the housing ladder?
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Button- Location: Dover
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I've really no idea either way! But looking to the future, should we let NIMBYism and/or an AONB stand in the way of fulfilling the hopes and dreams of young Dovorians to get on the housing ladder? Plus one could always link River with Dover, I suppose...
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Button wrote:I've really no idea either way! But looking to the future, should we let NIMBYism and/or an AONB stand in the way of fulfilling the hopes and dreams of young Dovorians to get on the housing ladder? Plus one could always link River with Dover, I suppose...
I still have a large digital file on the Farthingloe debacle, Button. I won't bore you with it. Suffice it to say that it's worth looking at groper Elphicke's register of members interests and the annual reports and accounts of CGI when they were a public limited company. Believe me, it had absolutely nothing to do with altruism.
Button- Location: Dover
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Oh I do! However, with what I thought was your desire not to keep putting the hopes and dreams of young people behind the NIMBY instinct...
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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What's anyone's ambition for this new labour admin on district council , and how much difference to Tories do you feel they will make ?
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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If it's not the Dail Fail, it's the Tottenham Conservatives! Yippee!
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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What goes on Ray?
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Button wrote:Oh I do! However, with what I thought was your desire not to keep putting the hopes and dreams of young people behind the NIMBY instinct...
I'm sure there are many thousands of people who would wish to see more affordable housing built with a younger generation as the target audience. But I don't think the fighting against wholly inappropriate development, often motivated by all the wrong reasons, necessarily contradicts such a wish. Farthingloe was a prime example which never had anything to do with affordable housing from its miserable outset.
On a related topic, how delightful to see the end of the ridiculous Prince's Parade development down the road in Shepway. It has cost the Tory advocates their jobs and is a triumph for the Greens and Lib Dems in particular.
https://www.kentonline.co.uk/hythe/news/kents-first-ever-green-council-axes-seafront-scheme-287500/Button- Location: Dover
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I'm all in favour of both a modicum of NIMBYism and appropriate development myself, which is why I thought Neil's "A clear demarcation between Labour and the Tories. Huge credit to Labour for putting the hopes and dreams of young people ahead of the NIMBY instinct" was, um, dangerous for want of a better word. If one looks at the utterances of the Elphickes past and present, the demarcation is not that clear in my view.
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