howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#61
much as I agree with your point about the tofu munching readers Philip the grauniad gives voice to every point of view.
the others tend to publish stuff that they know their acolytes want to read.
Brian Dixon
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#62
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#63
Ralph Barton Perry was an American philosopher-lite who changed his mind throughout his life. He started out with a naturalistic theory of value but later became a bitter cynic. His quotes would have some value if he had stuck to the principles they illustrate, but he didn't.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#64
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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#65
The electorate want an end to the EU, its only the politicians with their snouts in the trough that want to stay in
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#66
The (National and EU) politicians also seem to think that the electorate are not intelligent enough to make an informed decision; not one that they'd agree with.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#67
this new group is very different demograph to the usual out campaigners, mrs merkel would do well to pay heed to them.
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#68
Roger Walkden wrote:The (National and EU) politicians also seem to think that the electorate are not intelligent enough to make an informed decision; not one that they'd agree with.
Roger
That certainly applies to your boss Roger. You're a decent man with strong traditional values, I've no idea why you align yourself with such charlatans.
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#69
howard mcsweeney1 wrote:this new group is very different demograph to the usual out campaigners, mrs merkel would do well to pay heed to them.
Who are the "usual out campaigners"?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#70
people a lot older and concerned about jobs and being undercut on wages, unlike these very young highly educated professionals that don't have the same fears.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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#71
ok people here is the line up for the election.time to make your mind up.sadly only 1 x per voter.
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/2015guide/south-east-european-candidates-2014/Bob Whysman
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#72
Done, dusted and posted!
Do nothing and nothing happens.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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#73
bob likewise.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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#74
My friend Janice is first class
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#75
thanks for that info brian, surprised to see we have 10 mep's, have only heard of 2 of them.
I wonder if any of them have actually done something that has benefited the constituency.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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#76
Bob Whysman- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
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#77
howard mcsweeney1 wrote:thanks for that info brian, surprised to see we have 10 mep's, have only heard of 2 of them.
I wonder if any of them have actually done something that has benefited the constituency.
1. Surprised that there are not more MEP's; it's a very lucrative gravy train!
2. I suspect that one puzzles them too Howard......stop asking difficult questions!
Do nothing and nothing happens.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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#78
There's 750 of them Bob, each one costs in excess of £1m pa in total.
And all the politicians in the main parties love it.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#79
the thing is bob that this hannan chap used to bang on all the time about the gravy train, but has he actually got any funding back?
he has been there 15 years!!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#80
had all the leaflets in now except for the yellows, mostly uninspiring as the reds and blues aimed a lot of stuff more relevant to the next general election.
the green one was centred on Europe and the achievement of their mep, one of which was protecting worker's right - pity they didn't try to protect jobs.
whoever wrote the socialist party of great Britain's tract must have been smoking something interesting at the time.