Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Keith Sansum1 wrote:Jan
I'm interested in what you feel he did on the boats to earn that
My understanding was he was active in a managers union
Campaigned against Channel tunnel
No bad thing at the time
Indeed he got in when lab was popular the first time but he expected to lose the next 2 but won 3 times!
So maybe you were listening to the wrong people
I was listening to my husband and his friends who worked with him on the ferries, so definitely not "the wrong people", a comment I find insulting and upsetting.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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All about debate Jan
I can only go by the 25 years I worked closely with him even though I didn't support many of his policies
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Latest waffle.........Thinking of Charlie's last paragraph, people will not feel safer until we go back to old fashioned policing with Mr Plod pounding the beat as he knew those who were the baddies. Sadly I doubt that will ever happen.
"Safer streets
Keeping our streets safe and secure is a key priority for me. That’s why I have fought to ensure we have enough officers on patrol in our community. And all the hard work is paying off. More funding has been secured and we will soon have 11 extra police officers patrolling our streets.
This news follows a campaign I led in Parliament for more resources in Kent. It helped secure significant cash increases from central government, including an 8.1%, £23.6 million boost this year. The result? A recruitment drive for 380 more officers. Another 147 are due from Boris Johnson’s recent announcement, meaning total Kent Police officer numbers will be up by almost a fifth since 2016.
After all the problems of the London police force with “Nick” and other false allegations, it’s easy for people to lose faith. Yet it’s important to remember that Kent Police is not the London police force – and that they have a strong record of achievement deserving of our support.
It’s also welcome that tougher sentences are being put forward by the Government. Firstly, foreign criminals who sneak back into the UK will be given far longer jail terms. Previously they typically got just ten weeks. People will know that cracking down on foreign criminals is something I have long called for.
Indeed, longer jail terms will be handed out more widely, with plans to scrap current rules releasing prisoners halfway through their jail terms. That’s important too – because sending a strong message to criminals is how we win the war on crime.
Tougher sentences are an effective deterrent. Look at gun control. Two decades ago we brought in legislation to stop Britain heading down the American route of rampant gun ownership. Today, this country has one of the lowest rates of gun homicides in the world.
We can see it from Robert’s Law too. I campaigned with Michelle Fraser, the mother of Robert Fraser, an 18-year-old from Deal who died after taking fentanyl. The synthetic opioid is 50 times stronger than heroin, and usually added to other substances secretly for profit. We needed our courts to recognise this particularly reckless form of criminality. We succeeded.
Robert’s Law saw the sentencing guidelines changed, so that supplying even small amounts of fentanyl is now in the top category. A few months later, a gang of three from Yorkshire were handed record custodial sentences totalling 46 years.
What’s happened since? Government figures released over the summer showed deaths by fentanyl have reduced for the first time in years. Just last week, our top police force, the National Crime Agency, heaped praise on Robert’s Law, citing the reduction and saying it “warmly welcomes the amendment to sentencing guidelines”.
It’s another lesson of why we must back Kent Police, both on the streets and in the courts. Only then will people have confidence our streets are as safe and secure as they can be."
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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I'm still trying to understand.
The tories kicked charlie out twice due to these allegations
Yet today he's in the Commons sitting amongst all his tory buddies
So has he had whip withdrawn or not?
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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who knows it might be a tory thing miss whiplash. lol
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Keef, he’s had the whip withdrawn but he’s still an MP. Would you rather he sat among the Glib Dems?
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Certainly wouldn't have expected to see him on the middle of the tory benches
So on TV he's not really independent
Who's shafting who?
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Why would he sit anywhere else he is still a Conservative, he has only had the whip withdrawn because of those allegations against him.
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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There are so many 'independents' in the Commons now that it must be difficult for party people to find a seat.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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theres all ways the public gallery.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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So it makes a bit of a mockery of the situation
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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snot lately reggie
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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So looks likely. He will still be the tory candidate
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Will be interesting to see how he would get on now in a General Election if that is the route things take!
Button- Location: Dover
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Sacré bleu!
Logical, but still made me smile. Smurf party anyone?
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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'The Brexit Party can't win here'?
I note that in the bar chart 'our' Charlie does not seem to represent any particular 'party' nor suggests that people might vote Conservative. Just saying.
'If no one went no faster than what I do there'd be a sight less trouble in this world'
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Sometimes it is better to have the devil you know.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Jan Higgins wrote:Sometimes it is better to have the devil you know.
Yup. Charlie would certainly be more handy.
'To come in handy. To be especially useful, often in a particular setting or situation. It was a lot colder out than I thought it would be, so your jacket really came in handy! That flashlight comes in handy when I'm trying to find something in my car at night'.'If no one went no faster than what I do there'd be a sight less trouble in this world'