Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Captain have you been invited to the Dover College Remembrance Service ?
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Does Elphicke do his own graphics? Visually that 3.3% looks to be 40% of the way up his own column (if you'll excuse the expression).
In any case, last time round there was no BP, and UKIP's vote collapsed like a balloon in a pin factory. Were Farage to climb down off his own ego, remove his blinkers and do some strategic thinking he might see there's something in tactical voting, especially in leave constituencies with astute electorates, such as Dover.
If the current deal has passed or is still on the cards come the next GE, and Elphicke is still around, it shouldn't be difficult for the BP to nick his petard and hoist him with it.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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Sue Nicholas wrote:Captain have you been invited to the Dover College Remembrance Service ?
Never have had Sue.
FWIW will be on the nb LittleGem chugging around the ditches of England for some little while anyway. (Having sorted out postal vote!)
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Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
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Weird Granny Slater wrote:Does Elphicke do his own graphics? Visually that 3.3% looks to be 40% of the way up his own column (if you'll excuse the expression)
Good point! These are the 2017 GE results, where Labour got 40%, LDs 2.6% and Greens 1.8%. So the four non-blues depicted would, combined, still be less than the blues.
The diagram was on the 4th page of a leaflet, underneath a section that says Labour is passionate that Britain should remain in the EU. The leaflet doesn't say 'Conservative' once and so, as I posted, I assume it comes from the Smurfs.
(Not my real name.)
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,656
Hopefully the next GE will be about more than our leaving the EU, so I hope that we get to hear about other important issues which UKIP as well as Farage and his Brexit Party are not exactly shouting about.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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So he's not in party as an MP according to chief whip
Yet sits in the middle of the rest of the tory MPs
National party withdrawn whip which means surely if Boris goes for a general election
Charlie would have to stand against the official tory candidate??
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Yup.
IF an official candidate was put up.
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Pablo- Registered: 21 Mar 2018
- Posts: 614
If Charlie were to stand as an independent I would definitely vote for him. If he were to stand as an official Con candidate I would probably vote for him but might also abstain.
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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Do we know where Farage will stand yet? If I were a Brexit party strategist, I'd suggest Dover and Deal - no official Tory Party MP and constituency voted leave by a considerable margin. A no brainer?
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Max mischief + max published city would be Uxbridge.
'True' Brexit V Boris 'worst agreement ever'.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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'publicity'.
'If no one went no faster than what I do there'd be a sight less trouble in this world'
Pablo- Registered: 21 Mar 2018
- Posts: 614
#732, Neil, I’ve been suggesting that this might happen ever since Charlie lost the whip again. It’s a ‘no-brainer’ that would let Labour in with a good majority.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,571
Bob
either he's a tory or not
if the local tories decided as they are at present to put him up as the UNOFFICIAL candidate
with backing from the local association it would make a mockery of having the whip withdrawn
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
and now people are getting fed up of this in/out hokey cokey politico.
Pablo- Registered: 21 Mar 2018
- Posts: 614
Anybody here ever heard of the concept of being innocent until proven guilty?
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 5,981
Yes
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,656
Pablo wrote:Anybody here ever heard of the concept of being innocent until proven guilty?
Sadly not by those who dislike him or are staunch blinkered Labour or other party supporters, going by FB
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Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,205
So Keith have you given up being a socialist now you've left politics?
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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I think I have defended even Charlie boy when this all came out.
He still has the court case to attend in June or whenever it is.
My under stress is that he's unable to stand as an official candidate until the case is decided, which gives both the local assoc who are supporting him and the electorate A problem if an election is called.
We are likely to have an election as no one appears to be able to move forward on Brexit.
This will put Charlie and the association in a difficult position
Of course the national Conservative party could decide not to stand an official candidate or even allow Charlie to be the official candidate but that really would make a mockery of taking away the whip.
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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An election is coming, one way or another - question is when not if. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out...