Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 2,436
So Keith have you given up being a socialist now you've left politics?
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Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 19,990
I think I have defended even Charlie boy when this all came out.
He still has the court case to attend in June or whenever it is.
My under stress is that he's unable to stand as an official candidate until the case is decided, which gives both the local assoc who are supporting him and the electorate A problem if an election is called.
We are likely to have an election as no one appears to be able to move forward on Brexit.
This will put Charlie and the association in a difficult position
Of course the national Conservative party could decide not to stand an official candidate or even allow Charlie to be the official candidate but that really would make a mockery of taking away the whip.
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
- Posts: 472
An election is coming, one way or another - question is when not if. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out...
Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 1,243
Charlie's newsletter:
https://www.elphicke.com/news/lets-get-brexit-done-and-move-forward.
"We should have left ages ago. At every turn I have voted to leave and make the most of the opportunities that lie ahead for our nation." That's odd; if, for example, I key 'Elphicke' into the 12th March (2nd) meaningful vote -
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47547887, I get that he voted against.
"...people’s annoyance is increasing daily"; ah, now there I agree, and my TV set is getting increasingly nervous about the brick I seem to have brought into the sitting room. Perhaps I ought to lay down in a dark corner and wait for the excitement of the next US presidential elections.
"[The Remain parties] worry that Leave might win a second time. So they plan to take it off the ballot paper and have remain vs leaving with a deal. They hope this would split the leave vote so that people who want “no deal” will either not vote or vote against, meaning Remain wins." Er, sorry, but you're going to have to run that past me again - or find a dark corner of your own.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 19,990
Now we move into the election period we look to see where Charlie Is.
If the whip is withdrawn it makes a mockery of taking it saw away in the first place.
If the tory party felt Charlie should go through his trial first,
The calling of an election shouldn't change that.
I have gone into local madia defending Charlie's right to have his voice heard and not proven guilty and have a fair trial
But If those at the top of his party felt strong enough to suspend him because of the pending trial they should stick to their guns.
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 22,833
do we need another blue smurf representing the town.
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
- Posts: 472
We'll need to know soon enough....
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 19,990
Labour rubbing their hands but even if Charlie isn't able to stand
Labour won't win
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
- Posts: 472
What about Boris?! Is it too risky for him to stand in Uxbridge?
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 19,990
This is about Charlie
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
- Posts: 472
I realise that, Keith. Just speculating that Boris may have to stand elsewhere...
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 19,990
Let's keep it to Charlie
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Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 4,462
NB, sometimes what people don't say is much more revealing than what they do say.
'our' Charlie never mentions anything about any forthcoming candidature in the upcoming GE.......
"You know, there really exist certain people to whom it is assigned, at their birth, to have all sorts of extraordinary things happen to them" Mikhail Lermontov
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
- Posts: 472
I thought this, Captain. Not a peep.
I see Boris is linked with standing in Norfolk as well now. To be clear with Keith, I am speculating that Boris might just be the Dover and Deal Tory candidate - a long shot, I know, but there is a real chance of him losing Uxbridge, so they might find a safe seat elsewhere!
Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 1,243
The Dover Conservatives site also seems silent on the issue of our next MP, whilst including an article from our present one:
http://www.doverconservatives.com. Other than a coffee and a sherry morning, there seems to be little in the way of forthcoming events, so perhaps there won't be a Conservative candidate.
In fact, there's more activity on the DDC site:
https://www.dover.gov.uk/Council--Democracy/Elections/Standing-as-a-Candidate.aspx.
See also:
https://whocanivotefor.co.uk/elections/CT16%201JA/.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,702
I looked up the Conservative web site also but not a peep .
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 12,115
One person who is out of the running to replace Charlie, should he not stand again, is Nigel Farage. Thank goodness for small mercies.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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Boris? Dover? The self draining swamp has left plenty of much safer seats which are also much closer to London.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 19,990
Neil
it really is a big outside bet boris standing here.
The local association probably wouldn't support it
Really its about will the national stand a candidate
Even with all that is going on I still think Charlie would win
Labour will come thousands behind.
only a split by Charlie fighting a tory in the seat could the result be closer
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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"You know, there really exist certain people to whom it is assigned, at their birth, to have all sorts of extraordinary things happen to them" Mikhail Lermontov