Ther will always be road kill but local people are placing more significance on the ex badger found in fairly close proximity to the Westmount site.
Just as an aside one is making a nuisance of itself up in Mount Road Maxton digging up for worms.
what is annoying me also with this Westmount site, the contractor is working for a company that has no regard for the law, according to the Dover Express 17th March says that Churchgate has been granted planning consent for 100 homes, WHO has granted this consent certainly not DDC, no planning application has been passed since 2009, which has expired, so a new application must be applied for, which has not been done, this is a local planning issue so must go through local authorities
Churchgate have the same address as Trinity Homes who were granted the planning permission in 2009, so may be simply a change of company name.
As I understand the regulations, provided they did enough work before the application expired after 3 years for the development to be considered to have started then that original planning permission is still valid.
I bow to your knowledge of the regulations Ray, I have been ploughing through the 106 documents associated with the original application and came across the ecology report from 2008 where one officer spent 5 hours on site. Item 3.3.2 clearly states that badger setts are not to be disturbed by law.
This is the big issue and an inspector from DDC should attend to see that the law has been complied with.
Ray there was definitely no works carried out on that site from the granting of planning 2009 or since until now, so law is definitely broken, the original plans included flats on the old house not 100 houses
Looking at the Churchgate website they don't date the information they put on there, they have planning permission for a development at The Leas in Folkestone and they refer to the car park at Dover Priory as being worked on in time for "completion of the High Speed Rail link".
Wonderful that we are backing Mr Brock all the way! (but then I don't have a dairy herd some of which I'm having to slaughter due to TB infection whilst still trying to make a living whilst being royally screwed on my milk price by a large supermarket so that's all right)
"You know, there really exist certain people to whom it is assigned, at their birth, to have all sorts of extraordinary things happen to them" Mikhail Lermontov
Let's not worry to much about the facts on this one.
a) Most mammals can spread TB.
b) Vaccination is a lot cheaper than slaughtering badgers that may spread it.
c) The EU compensate dairy farmers that are hit badly.
d) Unless I am walking around with my eyes closed I haven't seen many dairy herds grazing in the town centre.
Just combing through planning application for this site, in Sept 11th 2009, permission was granted subject to conditions that I have previously stated on my other posts (ie) wildlife etc, for 97 Residential units, comprising conversion of old building with a 4 storey rear extension to 19 flats, 26 dwelling houses and a further 52 flats, no work was ever started on site, but they must have applied for an extension of planning as 27th April 2012 it was granted again, but still no work was carried out until the demolition of the old building, thus surely must mean that new plans would have to be submitted as there now is no old building to convert
Re post 67
Howard regards your post 68 ( a) Most mammals can spend TB ? Do you have MRCVS after your name ? Knowlege of this have you studied to make this comment ?
67 b) There is a TB vaccination that can be used in cattle but as it is impossible to distinguish between the antibodies of a vaccinated or infected cow then it is illegal to use it under EU Directive 78/52/EEC. There is a test being developed to distinguish between the antibodies (first recommended in 1997 !
) but it is about 10 years away and would still have to be approved by whichever law we come under then.
Logic would say test a calf as soon as possible after it is born and then give the vaccine if it is negative, but that still isn't allowed.
(for StuB, I'm qualified in and taught on professional degree level qualifications in Medical Laboratory Sciences
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I will let the experts answer the question you asked of me Stu, any questions on the other points I raised?
Thank you very much for your reply Mr Ray.
Surely the clue is in the name of the disease. It's not called Badger TB. Failure to control it in cattle has led to the wipeout of many protected badger communities.
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Just one thing I would like to ask. Does anybody know for sure there is Badger setts on the westmount site ?
I read a report on that earlier Peter, incidentally cats can pass it to humans so I will walk past mine with a hankie over my mouth.
The proof of existence of the setts has been clearly detailed on the planning application links on this thread Stu.
Mr Howard are they LIVE setts or old ones ?
Well Mr Stu they weren't dated by the ecology officer at the time but his report made clear that the longer the site was derelict the more setts would be created. Like most wild creatures that are nocturnal they are not keen on mixing with humans except to nick worms from our gardens.
Thank you for your wit Mr Howard. I was asking a very normal question on the subject.
No wit intended Mr Stu, here is what the Ecology officer said in 2008.
3.3.2 Two outlying badger setts were found on the site, together with extensive signs
of foraging by badgers throughout the entire site. The approximate locations of
the two setts are shown in Figure 1. Badgers and their setts are protected by the
1992 Protection of Badgers Act.