howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Had no luck with the 101 telephone number - no surprise there as most people seem to have the same problem. After wading through the Kent Police website I eventually got the e mail address of our CSU who can then pass on the relevant information to the wildlife protection team.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Planning breaches are nothing to do with the police. The planning authorities have that responsibility and prosecute directly in the courts themselves, as I understand the process.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Peter you are correct Not a Police matter.I suggested the ward Councillors as usually they can speak to the relevant officers direct.Use your local Councillors.Its the Planning department.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Not really about planning breaches but how developers protect wildlife whilst they go about their work.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/construction-near-protected-areas-and-wildlife#protected-speciesGuest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I have a interest on all the posting sir but to keep on trying to drop a company or council in it ,I think is wrong.
They are just doing a job and anything is better then the rubbish what is on that site now and they would have done their homework on this one before starting the work.Thank you.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Careful Howard you will not be getting an invite in the post.May I believe is when invites come through the door!
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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Vic, I wish you would stop telling all of us "to drop it" whenever you think someone is wrong. We are all entitled to give our opinion on any subject whether you like it or not.
Unfortunately the damage has been done, at least it was done prior to the normal breeding season so any wildlife should not be to badly affected.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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You're right Sue I have blotted my copybook for next May.
Jan , besides the breeding aspect the network of tunnels cannot be disturbed or destroyed under the protection of badgers act of 1992. If an independent witness or two are allowed access to the site and can prove that nothing has changed then all is OK. There are others interested in the outcome who have much more knowledge than me and need to be convinced.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Howard's link in #44 is interesting. There are lots of slow worms in the DTIZ site on the part behind Castle St, they used to reguIarly invade the garden at Blakes. I haven't looked at the planning documents to check whether that has been taken into consideration but I shall do.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 1708- Registered: 9 Mar 2016
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On the Westmount site there is badger set, slow worms, lizards, bats, birds, and a few protected trees, some of the trees up there must be a hundred years old or more the main bark is at least 2' 6" or more round, which gives you an idea of age
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I think you are reading my post not as I mean them .I am all for looking after any trees and wildlife there is up there,I was on about the building ,but still think that they would keep within the law the council know how you are feeling about the site so they will keep going down there.Thank you.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Not many people had an interest in the building itself it had became a dangerous structure and best pulled down. The wildlife is a separate issue with many badger setts being decades old and responsible developers can find a way of working around them.
There is not enough council officer time available to monitor what goes on at the site and will be interesting to read peter's assessment of the slow worm situation at his former premises.
Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
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The development site in Lydden had a reptile report by the same author of the one for Westmount recording a high population of slow worms, which as it is an undeveloped site adjacent to farmland and less than half a mile from an internationally important nature reserve is not surprising.
There is now an anti-slow worm fence around the whole site, and all resident slow worms are supposed to have been rehomed in suitable housing outside the site. That is standard procedure for these type of situations. (Stop
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Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,257
Having compared with Google earth it isn't as Devastating as the pic suggests, on Google earth you can see chalk spoil above the amb. Station car park that would likely be badger, and on pic you can just see traces of it still.
All the trees around the building that are removed are likely sycamore.
Arte et Marte
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Interesting picture Reg, it shows that the horse trough belongs there, not the tram shelter.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
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Three times I selected the right photo and kept posting the horse trough, had to put it in a new folder to get it done
Arte et Marte
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Just had a call back from Kent Wildlife Police, had an interesting discussion with an officer who seemed very knowledgeable on his subject. Can't go into details of the conversation but had to stress a few times that planning permission had been granted only for the demolition of the building. Enquiries will be made very shortly as he now has the planning no: the Council involved and the demolition company.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Had another call from Kent police officer this afternoon and he has arranged a meeting with a DDC planning enforcement officer to check whether there has been any unauthorised disturbances to the badger setts on site.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Told today that more trees are being ripped down on site and that a badger has been found dead in Northbourne Avenue!!
Have left a message with Kent Wildlife Police, hopefully their investigations are continuing.
Guest 1385- Registered: 27 Oct 2014
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I saw a dead badger on the road outside the Beefeater on the Folkestone road. And a dead seagull on Elms Vale road today.
