Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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13 November 2010
01:0279889Plenty has been written on the Forum about unemployment and how to get unemployed people to work.
So I researched and thought the following statistics might be interesting. They come from the Office for National Statistics, a Gov. office.
The unemployment rate in Britain in the 3 months to August 2010 was at 7,7%, with 2.45 million people unemployed.
However...the number of employment vacancies for the 3 months to Septenber 2010 was 459,000!
That's an average of one job for five people!
May-be some rethinking to do!
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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13 November 2010
09:1679892Alex - not all jobs are advertised at government Job Centres. Many do not get advertised at all.
When I last needed someone about a year ago I just 'put the word around'.
A lot of employers I know would not touch a Job Centre.
On the other hand if you are unemployed you have to register there to claim. A fair number of them will go on to be self-employed, are 'resting' actors or between seasonal occupations. The bare statistics do not give the full picture, far from it.
Incidentally a 68 year old man I know was made redundant recently, he had quite a high powered job, but within days found new work as a taxi driver. It can be done.
Ross Miller
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13 November 2010
09:4579894True Barry - the sort of job I have and look for does not get advertised via Job Centres but through specialist agencies or is placed with Head Hunters who approach candidates direct.
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While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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13 November 2010
10:4679898And who you know,even now I am told there is a place for me when I am fit again,and if that happens, I will go back part-time.But i do fill sorry for the young and mid/ages it is very hard out there at this time,but keep trying it will come,but when you send aletter off for work try to put avisit in to it so they can see a face,it does work,I must say I went and asked for work i did not do it with letters,nor did I wait to see if they had advertised,there are companys and I know one or two of them,even if they looking for staff they never advertised for any ,so get the old walking boots on and keep trying but do not wait to see any advertised,just turn up well dressed men take out you earrings and the ring in your lips etc.Look the part and you might just get a part.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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13 November 2010
11:0679902Fair enough, but the vacancies as per statistics refer to work agencies in general, not just to the job-centre advertised vacancies. The statistics office must have done a lot of work to get the numbers, because many jobs are advertised at the same time with more than one work-agency or online site.
I think this is quite an important particular in the context to take into consideration. There are many more people seeking work in Britain than there are vacancies.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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13 November 2010
11:0679903They dress like that Vic so they DON'T get offered a job.
Roger
13 November 2010
11:3379906Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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13 November 2010
13:2779913In some case,s yes.
Keith Sansum1
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13 November 2010
16:1179923I think we are all guilty of it judging people by appearances, fully accept first impressions do count.
I know of many people who look to some menacing, lots tattoo's and pins in mouth and tounge pierced etc, but they are the nicest, friendliest, and most helpful people you could meet
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
13 November 2010
16:2779927It depends on the role as well - if it's front of house it matters that people appear approachable. I don't have a problem with tattoos etc but appearances matter inn some roles. Half of the job of getting a job is about engaging with people.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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13 November 2010
16:3779931Although personally I haven't seen one unemployed person who presented themselves as such either with a pin in the tongue nor with a visible tatoo.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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13 November 2010
18:4379938no they stand outside the job centre with their dog on a lead.
this is viewed by all the motorists and bus passengers waiting at the traffic lights.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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13 November 2010
20:5079961Well, it's hard to find words. May-be there are more vacancies than unemployed people after all.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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13 November 2010
22:4679966Just found this information from Theresa May, concerning hidden unemployment in Britain:
"There are 2.3 million people in this country who want to work who are not in work and who are not counted in the unemployment figures," she said.
So it seems that the unemployment figure is double than what I thought in post 1.
Why did no one tell me? Or do all these also wear pins in their tongues?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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13 November 2010
23:3679970keith
you are right about judging by appearances but employers have to go by the first impression that they get from a future employee.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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14 November 2010
08:2679979I'm under retirement age, I do not work (formally - that's not to say I do any blackmarket working); I do not claim any unemployment benefit and so I would not be counted as one of the unemployed.
There must be millions in a similar situation, so people not working but could if they chose to, would also (generally) be better employees, because they would be WANTING to work. It must also distort the official numbers of those not working.
Roger
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14 November 2010
09:0779984At one interview I attended, in shirt, tie etc., I was the only one not wearing jeans or sporting a company logo on my vest. After what seemed to be a very good interview one of the interviewing panel followed me out to apologise. He told me that, left to him I would have been offered the job as I had the right experience etc, but they had a policy of taking school leavers. It was his advice that I keep looking because, in his experience, they would be advertising the job again in 6 months and he hoped they would reconsider the policy in the future.
It should also be remembered that those few you see hanging around outside the office are not representative of all those that use the office. While they may be the 'full-time' benefit claimers you do not see those who go in to check on vacancies and then leave to check shop windows, local papers and agencies because they want to find a job.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
Jan Higgins
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14 November 2010
10:4379992We had a young schoolboy who did not look old enough to legally employ come into the shop yesterday morning asking if we had any jobs, as we are all volunteers I suggested he try the other shops in the area. I just hope he was lucky.
This proves that all youngsters are not a hopeless cause.
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14 November 2010
10:5079996'At one interview I attended, in shirt, tie etc., I was the only one not wearing jeans or sporting a company logo on my vest.'
Sounds a bit like my last court appearance at Ashford Magistrates' (speeding- since you ask)
14 November 2010
10:5079997Totally agree with you, Jan and Chris. I meet lots of really keen job-seekers of all ages as well as the workshy. And it should be remembered that some of the apparent workshy have a great deal to overcome in order to develop a work ethic - being brought up in a family of unemployed benefits=users, surrounded by the least aspirational people in the community, with apathy bred into you, it takes serious support and motivation to mount the steed of employability. There are a surprising number who want to do just that.
