Guest 683- Registered: 11 Feb 2009
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Howard, you are being mischievous. You know full well that anyone out of work is a feckless, unwashed, good for nothing communist intent on bringing about the downfall of our civilisation. They should be taken out and, in front of their family, be shot.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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So then Howard what you are actually saying is - give up on those who are long-term unemployed, let them rot on benefits. After all a scheme to make them employable such as this keeps other employable people unemployed.
I totally disagree with you in every sense of the word. You need only see the number of immigrants getting jobs to see that there is work for those who are willing and able.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Do you see how these immigrants live Barry?
Should the first thing to happen to anybody when they become unemployed be to remove them from their home to a hostel or, with their entire family, off into one room? Work camps? Labour camps?
Arbeit Macht Frei? It's the way you tell 'em Barry.
Your seem only to see the difference in other peoples apples and oranges when your own remain much of a muchness.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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You are very strange Tom...
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i have to hand it to you barry you never let proven facts cloud your judgement.
when a new business opened in deal a few weeks back there were 13 applicants for each vacancy.
when morrisons were recruiting a year or two back they used crabble, the whites could not have seen more people there if they had drawn manchester united in the cup.
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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Blimey a first on this site. A veritable Godwin's law.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Howard - look at the employment figures, what I said is born out.
But then what do you care? - from what you have said you are clearly quite happy to see some people left on the scrapheap forever scrounging on benefits.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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nice try at rubbishing a response barry,but you studiously avoid giving weight to your statement.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Something big-time has to be done to get local unemployed into a working routine, and hopefully into a job, be it even part-time.
Personally I'd have thought it better to add £90 a week to the benefits in return for 30 hours a week work during the placement period.
But what is missing here are the many minimum wage factories employing non-Brits, like those salad factories in Kent. There too something needs be done.
The Government should march the youth in and train them in these factories, and employ them there. After a 30 day trial period on benefits + £90 a week, they'd receive £6.13 an hour, and each month they'd receive a £1 an hour increase until they reach £10 an hour.
Only those who perform average to well would be permanently employed, as said, even part-time. If the employers complain they don't want Brits, put them on trial for racial discrimination and nationalise the factory!
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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P.S.
I'm using post 81 as a shield to cover post 89 and so-by avoid prison
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I know I've said it more than once on here, but the Work-Placement I was involved in a year ago now, worked very well and would have continued had Government funding for it not dried up.
The youngsters were learning skills and disciplines, and getting out of bed and going to work; that act alone was breaking a strong cycle of inactivity. They were beginning to feel valued and worthy.
I must be honest it didn't work for all of them, but you never will get 100% success, but it was a very good succes rate.
It hadn't been going long enough and so when the funding stopped and the work-placements stopped, so did their learning and so they felt let down again.
It will be very difficult for them to trust a Government project/scheme - any Government, again and teh Governmment only have themselves to blame. If it had carried on for say two years, then we would all have reaped many benefits, not just the youngsters.
Roger
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Emma Harrison of A4e Cameron`s golden hope may have government contracts cancelled after the announcement
of another official inquiry into alleged fraud.............
Keith Sansum1
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well said post 85
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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.................and more to come..................
Since the Election the Public Sector has lost 270,000 jobs while the Private Sector has gained only 226,000..............
The Institute for Fiscal Studies report that the Coalition Government has made only ..........6%.......of its planned cuts
to Public Spending.................voters and workers have the other.............94%.........still to look forward to.................
...........the cuts so far have put thousands of Families on hard times............
With only 6% of the spending cuts made and .....94%..still to come the prospects for the rest of 2012,2013,2014 and 2015
look pretty grim...................................................
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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The prospect of unemployment rising to over 4 million has to be a reality in a short space of time.
it looks grim
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the figures are made worse by 1 in 3 incapacity claimants reassessed as super fit and available for work in the last year. this will continue and 4 million signing on in the future is not beyond the bounds of possibility.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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I recall a conservative in the past happy to chuck people on the dole
apart from these people not putting anything back into the economy and the effect that has.
We also see families now generations on the dole, a lot not of there own doing.
When are we to see the light at the end of the tunnel promised?
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Brian Dixon
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when someone puts 50p in the meter kieth.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Shaking the hidden unemployed out into the system to get jobs seems a very good move to me. The figures may look worse but ultimately it is just statistics where they are being shoved off incapacity onto Jobseekers and not new unemployed. Interestingly, when pushed off incapacity a not insignificant proportion do not even register as unemployed, it seems a lot of them were working 'in the black' and prefer to carry on that way...
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i think keith is stating common sense here, most of us remember the mass unemployment of the eighties that started the stay at home family phenomenon.
we are faced with this again, once a young person cannot get a job after trying for a year or more he/she will give up, start a family with someone in the same situation and their children will think it normal that no member of the family goes out to work.