Be real, BarryW. What about variable or hidden conditions - which covers a significant amount! And define "work"......and what about remissions etc. It is not as simple as you would like to think.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Bern, yes its not easy at all but the terms of incapacity are there and no doubt you are correct there may be the odd grey area. But we should welcome a proper application of the rules and as long as that is the case then fine. The correct debate should be about the rules and terms laid down by government for long term incapacity to which I made a contribution earlier.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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atos are paid to get results by turning down claims, they would not get and keep the contract otherwise.
they argue that if someone is fit enough to attend the interview they are fit to work.
if they fail to attend their claim is stopped.
Exactly. That is the point. This is a case where PbR really isn't appropriate.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I think you are reading too much left wing propaganda Howard. But we will see... If they have not been handling thing properly and there are court cases then all will come out in the wash.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i quoted it from the telegraph some time ago barry.
back to unemployment 20 odd jobs going in a new tesco express deal, nearly 300 applicants.
no doubt the failed applicants will still be derided as bone idle.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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# 20 & 22...........heart of gold ?............is this the caring tories in action.................
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Your problem Reg is that you are only too keen to spend other people's money without regard to the effect that has on the economy. You help no-one by dolling out high levels of benefits and bankrupting the country. If caring is about destroying businesses, jobs and wealth creation then you can keep that kind of caring where the sun does not shine.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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well BERN makes some valid points on how the net closes and some get caught up in it.
HOWARD also makes a point on an interview process which is of interest.
but never the less there is aneed to sort out the benefits system
but in a fair way
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Guest 662- Registered: 18 Mar 2008
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One less unemployed person in Dover as of Tuesday!!! Finally got my act together and start my new job in Chatham. Thank you to all my forum friends who have helped me through the last 9 months, feel like a new woman today with a brand new future ahead of me.
Life is looking up in 2012 in the Sheppard household xxxx
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Congratulations and well done Sheli - shame you have to travel so far, but a job is a job.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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it does seem a long way to travel, congratulations from me too.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Well done Sheli - good luck
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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yep good luck there sheli.
howard only an hour each way on the train.
Guest 662- Registered: 18 Mar 2008
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Thanks guys, and yes Brian the train is looking really good at the moment as the office is on the High Street
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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See you down at the Station Sheli,better than seeing Keith!!!
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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That's not much of a compliment John.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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good one roger, best that sheli gives john a wide berth though for the usual reasons.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Another one from Reg...Dave Brown of The Independent
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I think that cartoon is sick. I understand the message it is trying to get across, but I really think it is (to me) a reminder of all the jews queueing up for the Nazi gas-chambers.
Do you think the fat-cats eating the remains of the unempoyed is in good taste Reg ?
I don't.
Roger
