Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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2 January 2011
14:1787262I only work on the Draft the rest is done for me.I was told that last time UKIP had the best leaflet out of all the partys.
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15:0687264Keith Sansum1
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15:3187265sue
firstly vic has to get elected im not yet convinced of that
secondly im sure the blues -not indicated ukip to win seats i know the reds dont think they will win any
thirdly
howard
irealise i probably could do wel if stood again
'but i don't believe in doing a job unless i ca give 100% to it
plus all the other reasons i gave as a reply on another thread
so, as i say i won't be a candidate in mays elections
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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2 January 2011
16:3387267The ward of Little Stour & Ashstone,could one we stand for to in that ward are Ash, Goodnestone.Preston, Staple, Stourmouth, And Wingham ,3 District Councillors seats are in that ward. As I said before Maxton,Elms Vale ,and Priory ward 3seats also for D.D.C, there. Middle Deal &Sholden again 3 seats. DDC. Mill hill, 3Seats.River 2seats and Whitfield,are the main ones on my hit list,then the Castle ward, (Dover)Eastry,Ringwould,Town and pier(DOVER) Sandwich,North Deal, and the last ones are St Radigunds,Walmer,St Margaret,s -at -Cliffe,Tower Hamlets (Dover) Lydden &Temple Ewell, Eythorne &Shepherdswell,Buckland (Dover) Aylesham, Capel-le- Ferne and Eastry. There are 45seats to fill in May,look on the above if you see one you would like to try for and live there ,please email me.
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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2 January 2011
16:5987276Vic the people of Tower Hamlets will be hurt they are at the end of your list,they are at the top of mine !!!! The Labour party who have already selected thier candidates would look forward to UKIP fighting there and losing.As you said before Vic vote for the Person not the Party.Now you are asking people who you don't know to stand for the party UKIP.
We are active in the ward all the time,not just at election time,you will not convince many people in Dover to vote for UKIP at DDC elections,just people that want to use thier vote as a protest,you would have more chance standing for the Raving Looney Party,have you ever been a member Vic?
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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17:0787278We have the Town Council next , so just wait and see,I do not think we would do well at Tower Hamlets at this time,but May is some way off yet and that could change,I think at this time my list is just about right,and if you look at it again you will see this could help the reds,as it did in the county one just gone by,it was UKIP that got the reds that seat,without the 400+votes for UKIP the blues would have got back in.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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17:1187280Just to add to this do we wish to see the reds running the D.D.C. it is a no to that.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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2 January 2011
17:1787282Couldn't agree more with that Vic.
Roger
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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2 January 2011
17:2287286Roger Vic might replace you in EV Maxton,how would you fancy having him as your DDC cllr
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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2 January 2011
17:3087290ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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2 January 2011
17:3087291Vic disagree with you about the KCC election,your votes came from across the board but mainly Libs what is intresting is the per centage of lost votes on a very poor turn out 16%
Tories were 2700 now 1300 50 % reduction
Libs were 1500 now 140 90% reduction
Lab were 1800 now 1500 20% reduction.
Normally in poor weather conditions it is Labour supporters who don't bother to vote,and that can be seen in the 20% reduction,so where did the Tory vote go,well it looks like they couldn't be bothered and the Libs didn't do anything and only the die hard Libs voted.
Talking to Gordon one surprise was the postal votes,which normally is a Tory landslide,but this time was neck and neck.The reason why Labour did better than the rest is because we got out and got our leaflets in the doors,in every ward not 1 but most got 2 leaflets
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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2 January 2011
17:3287293I can see Roger asking the Labour group if he could join us in a coaltion to keep Vic out.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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17:3687295It might take the two partys to do that this time,and I am not the only one standing for UKIP in May at Maxton.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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2 January 2011
17:4887304Thanks John, but I'm sure Vic will help himself not get elected.
Roger
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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2 January 2011
17:5087307Some people crave power and never get it,the problem is being a Cllr doesn't give you a lot of power too.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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2 January 2011
17:5487310the KCC election as you say john was a shock for the tories and you can see why our nigel has started posting again
he can see the doorclosing again thankfully.
vic your not correct you kept blues out, it was a combinatin of factors partly identified by john.
but if all your hoping is a protest vote to keep one or other party out then it not looking good for UKIP
So let you give me give you my opinion on the seats that vic identifies
and u note vic picks seats with 3 member wards in the hope of getting one of 3
little stour i would have said in past years lib dems coulddo well but these days
they are likely to be wiped out at every level so think tories will hold those seats
stourmouth and wigham
again, in the past lib dems could have done well but as per little stour
priory mxton and e vale likely to return 3 labour this time(no offence roger)
middle deal
will return 3 labour cllrs
mill hill will be unchanged 3 labour
river will return sue and one other tory
whitfield is my wild card
i actually think these 2 seats coud go toi any of the 3 main parties and vic likely to just split the vote.
believe the lib dems scaremongered to gain the seats over an old peoples home
but since then talking to whitfield people they are unhappy with the 2 lib dems cllrs
one who lives in deal to far away and the other never seen
then theres the national scene
i would like to see castle ward change but will take a strong labour challenge has hapened before so lets see
eastry
think labour could win these seats will be a close call
ringwoud will retun tories
town and pier will return labour cllr
sandwichh will return 3 tories
north deal could return 3 labour seats keepchanging hands
st rads will return 2 labour
st margarets 2 tories with reduced majorities
towe hamlets 2 labour
lydden will return a tory
shepherdswell
this could go labour or even ndy(r hansell)
but will be a close call as has been the case for some time
buckland willreturn 3 labour
aylsham will return 2 labour
capel will return a tory
s as iv already put up my selected seats to watch
now vic has added others
im brave enough to put down my predictions
i add as iv said before ukip has replaced for the moment the lib dems protest vote
once the lib dems get wiped out at every level they will need to decide in what direction they are heading, so we won see them back locally for some time they also dont have any dosh, dont have contact in the communities across the district like they used to(one of there strengths)
have a nice day
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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2 January 2011
17:5887311No offence taken Keith, but I think you are wrong - Maxton Elmsvale and Priory is likely to return at least two Conservative Councillors.
No comment on the other areas.
Roger
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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2 January 2011
18:0087314Vic could win EV and Maxton here is how.
1. move 1000 realatives into the Ward.
2.Shoot the other candidates,or box them and then he could proably finish at best
7th out of 11 or 12 candidates.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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2 January 2011
18:0887318there you go roger im happy to openly give my view on all the seats mentioned
realised why you dont want to roger.
i think i will enjoy sitting back nd watching the bun fight lol
roger
vic is passionate for getting a seat, i just wish his energy could be bottled in some other way to make a difference.
i realise as an indy alone the cost of standing cannot be met bymany plus the footwork etc.
so vic is desperate to have a party to pay the bills, the problem comes when you getr intio the polling booth
because vic has stood for so many parties n one realy knows what he stands for
thats no disrespect to him just reality
and so unless ukip mounts an all year round camaign wich is unlikely as hes stated on here the wont have enough candidates to fill the 45 seats so unlikely to get involved in all 45 wards
and believe in livin/workng in the ward so you have some idea of the area
vics a lovely guy but only ever likely to be that protest vote
he may well affect some wards outcomes
but unlikely to gain any seats
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