Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Vic. Thought I'll let you know that the Daily mail and Mail on Sunday print articles that open the public eyes and compare the Tories in Parliamenrt to the Labour in power, and noting that neither the ones nor the others are capable of governing, and give no refined views on this either! Vic, if you research a little into this, you'll even see that my views are not more extreme than many views written on these national editions. I believe the Daily Express is also quite open. You would find that the UKIP could actually do well by considering what many journalists are writing, as these are people with plenty of knowledge and experience, and once they have started writing in no uncertain terms as they have been, then this means that the main-stream parties are on the run. Take advantage of it!
Journalists write what they are paid to write; fact. Editors print what they are paid to print/not print; fact.
Nice to know you are the reader of the Daily Express Alexander, I'd been wondering for months who it was.
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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Which is why Sid I haven`t bought or read newspapers of any kind for more than 20 years.
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
Im not convinced Vic, we should embrace europe and the world. We are all human an ideal world we should all work together, not concentrate on just being British, i may be in the minority .
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Thank you all for your post,s I do read them all,I am going to this meeting on Tuesday night and I am going to put my views and the views of my party like it or not we are a major party and I am a Dover candidate the only one I might add so see you there
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the issue is not about people mark, it is about a distant parliament that tells everyone in the member states what they can and cannot do in their own countries.
the idea of the european economic community was a great one, free trade strengthens everyone, but things have moved on and this monolith has got out of control.
I agree Howard but i believe we can make it work from the inside rather than be outsiders .
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I have to go out but just before I do lets just look at the word "Conservative" which means "Presrvative" and "Conserve"Now the blues which as we all know are the Conservative party,and they have been saying that the word "Conservative is to Preservatve the UK. yet they have give away our nation and are still trying to keep it that way.But by voting UKIP next time you all will be helping to Conserve our nation by geting it back from the EU and again runing it our selfs ,please just think about that,the blues are saying they are Conservative(but are they) so if you are a conservative you need to vote UKIP because we will conserve our nation they will not,nor will the others Reds or the Leb/dem only one way to vote to save our nation and that is by Voting UKIP this time
Later tonight coming more of our Manifesto. Thank you.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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Be very careful Vic .You could lose a lot of support .It takes a long time for a party to be recognised .many years ago there was not a Labour party .You will not achieve over night .
I shall not be at the meeting as im busy with election issuies .I will be at the lunch though at the County Hotel .
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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On another note you will need a lot of UKIP mps to turn it around .Dont make promises that cannot be kept .
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I have and never will make promises that I cannot keep,so I realy do not know what you mean.If you are on about UKIP and coming out of the EU that would be down to a public to vote on but the party have always said that they would like to get out of the EU.
Everything starts somewhere, Sue. When suffragettes started taking affirmative action they were seen as a blip.
Having said that, UKIP has a considerable amount to do to be taken as seriously as it would like!!
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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On we go this is going to be a long one.
The Economy:Tax,Budget,&Reguation.
I can not write it word for word it would take to long.
Britain,s economy is being suffocated by high taxation,excessive EU regulation ,overgenerous wefare and punitive bureaucracy.
Meanwhile,the recession has seen the economy shrink.
Did you know that the current tac code is more than 10.000pages long and requires simplification.
There are nearly eight million people or one in every four UK workers-employed in "Education,Health and Public Administration.
(1) UKIP will Take all minimum wage earners out of the tax by raising the tax threshold to £11.500,encouraging many to work.
(2)Introduce a flat tax which will make all taxpayers better off and take a further 4.5 million lower paid workers out of income tax altogether.The flat tax will merge existing income tax bands and Employees "National Insurance contributionsinto a single rate of 31% staring at the £11.500 threshold.
Pension income below the higher-rate tax threshold will stay at 20%.
(3)Stimulate job creation by phasing out Employers "National Insurance over a five year period.
The revenue will be recouped either as PAYE tax,sales tax revenue,or by the reduced need for State welfare.
UKIP recognise the dangerous levels of national debt and accept there is no alternative to major cuts in government spending.
And believe there is substantial waste and inefficiency that can be eliminated while vital front line services remain fully protected.
UKIP also believes profligate government spending is killing off the productive activity that provides tax funds.
UKIP aim is to redurce the public sector to the size it was in 1997,cutting many unnecessary quangos and non-jobs over five years.
there is still alot more to come on this policy so more tomorrow night. Thank you VIC m
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i have to hand it to you vic, i doubt if people half your age can compete with your energy and enthusiasm.
if only our parliamentarians had the same passion.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Thank you for that Howard,I will be out in the morning with my leaflets and all week and then Saturday morning in the high st
I had a very good turnout of UKIP members in Deal last Saturday and it will be the same this week.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Well off we go again with my wife into the last full week the weather is still holding out this week we have a team going round Whitfield please stop them when you see them.also again the Deal team will be out and i am still making my round Dover.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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I shall be out with the Conservative leaflets this morning .Getting the garage spruced up for my posters .
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Could I make a paragony? The UKIP generally has the same plans as the three mainstream parties concerning tax on minimum wages, reducing over-spending, quangoing off excessive quango and quack merchants (such as campaigning for people of the same gender to "have the right" to mayy in church etc. ...), but.. they differ substantially because they realise that the e.u. system prevents any regeneration of economy, condemns us (and some other western countries) to paying and paying to other member states as if we had just lost the first and third world wars and owed them war reperations... and that the e.u. just uses this money to bribe (pay) companies in the West to bolt the factory door and send the production off to the East of Europe, and to then finance the new factories in the East (protectionism) to flood our markets using our own machinery which we paid for twice (to produce it and then to hand it over to ...wherever); that the e.u.-promoted mass immigration will send us British emigrating in the end to Canada if we are not careful and leave the streets free to millions of people from other countries talking their foreign languages lining the street corners not knowing what to do and getting benefits, for some strange reason. All this means, translated, that the UKIP has many policies in common with the main-stream parties, but also a pair of wings to fly over the concrete wall and land safely in the garden.
The 3 mainstream parties all are e.u. agenda parties, so they would only go crashing into the concrete wall, dragging us with them, as there is no survival for our Country as long as the Brussels mad-hatters in Brussels are not kept on the other side of the Sea. So, all in all, vote UKIP and preserve our Country from total catastrophe, if you wish!
But ultimately, the choice is for each individual voter do decide, so think it over carefully!
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Vic, may I offer you this transcripted article of "The Mail on Sunday" April 11 2010.
If it's wicked to smuggle a corpse on to an aeroplane, how much more wicked is it to smuggle the corpses of two dead political parties into an Election campaign? No normal human being actually supports or likes the Labour Party or the Tory Party. Their meetings are attended only by the very old and confused or by the desperately ambitious, or by people trying to find shelter from the cold and wet. If they sent out collectors into the streets with tins, they'd end the day with 75 pence, a few billion Zimbabwe dollars and a lot of buttons.
If it weren't for semi-secret taxpayer subsidies, dodgy non-dom billionaires, and for equally dodgy trades unions, neither of them would be able to employ the squadrons of professional liars and con men politely called spin-doctors, or the stage sets where for the next few weeks their leading cliques will try to look sensible and important.
And if it were not for the absurd broadcasting rules, under which the BBC will give time to a party only if it't already rich and powerful, they might haver to fight for space against real, original ideas and policies. As it is, prepare for a contest between Tweedledead and Tweedledeader.
A hung Parliament, which I think a growing number of voters actively want, will be a good place to store these cadavers while we think of something better.
Quotation end.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Vic, keep it up! You have more people thinking like you on important national papers than many funders of the Election campaign would like the people to believe!
