Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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Sue, Dover is an ancient and proud town and deserves so much more than a spat over whether a recently (relatively speaking) formed administrative organisation's relatively new crests are displayed or painted over by an organisation that is entirely separate from the Town Team. I think that people generally would say that they are Dovorians, or from River, Deal, Whitfield, etc. no one would describe themselves as coming from the Dover District.
Personally, cost allowing, I'd like to see all the street furniture in Dover Town painted blue and displaying the crest of Dover Town - the District and its Crest are a modern concoction which have little or no personal resonance. But I'm not a councillor of any kind and have no say or input to the colour of the Town's street furniture or the crest that it does, or doesn't, display.
That said, the blue street furniture is DTC and not the Town Team. The Blue Birds and Town Team are merely trying to deliver something positive in the Town, with a modicum of success to date. If there is a genuine problem with the street furniture, then DDC should take this up with DTC and not throw insinuations at a business led and positive set of, non-street furniture related, developments in Dover Town.
Of course the Town team cooperate with the Town Council, as it does with the District Council; the Town and District Councillors for Dover are Dovorians and the Town's directly elected representatives, most of the Town Team are local business people who want to deploy their knowledge and experience and give their time to get on with delivering positive things in Dover rather than watch the town continue to decline whilst waiting on the delivery of DDC's long promised, and as yet undelivered, major developments.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Well said and true. end
Guest 684- Registered: 26 Feb 2009
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Hi David, Neil and any other rare examples of sentient beings on the Dover mothership (destination: Oblivion),
I am reading this thread with my jaw repeatedly clanging on the ground at the relentless streams of unmitigated arrant nonsense promulgated by our area's status-obsessed officialdom.
Glad you and a few others do bother, David, but I totally sympathise with your exasperation.
Talk about fiddling while Rome burns (same goes for the recent seafront Bogwatch).
Let them eat paint...
Andy
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Well put Neil.
With the exception of the articulate and engaging Kevin Charles, Cllr Nicholas is the only regular contributor to the forum from DDC these days. Although I find it difficult to believe that DDC's reputation could sink any lower, it appears that Cllr Nicholas is singlehandedly doing her best to alienate people even further.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Hi Andy, sorry our posts crossed over.
I am reading this thread with my jaw repeatedly clanging on the ground at the relentless streams of unmitigated arrant nonsense promulgated by our area's status-obsessed officialdom.
Brilliant stuff Andy
Guest 782- Registered: 4 Oct 2012
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My jaw is not only on the floor, it is stuck to some gum lying there!
Are we in a parallel universe? I like most of you find this exchange astonishing.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I was in Ely and Margate recently .Civic Black.David .far from self promotion look a little closer to home.Im a District Councillor some Councillors wear several hatsWhich Council are they loyal too?Not many people post on here anymore as DDC are or always being knocked.
Stand up and be acountable why do you hate DDC .Officers and Councillors ?
Do you chaps work ??
I have a day off today so can afford to look at the forum.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Stand up and be acountable why do you hate DDC
I am accountable to my paying customers. Local taxpayers are your customers.
I am sure there are people at DDC reading this and shaking their heads, it is astonishing that you are so oblivious to and unaware of public opinion.
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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Work - yes, about 90 hours a week (70 of which are spent running my own business, the rest on voluntary community activity). Just finished dealing with New Zealand ports this morning and will start with the Americans in 10 minutes when they've finished their morning meetings.
Hate? No. But 20 years plus of apparently unchecked decline and dereliction perpetuated by shining, but undelivered, promises breeds a certain level of cynicism.
Also accountable to my paying global clients.
If Ely and Margate have well maintained black street furniture - good for them. Dover's black stuff was tatty, Dover Town Council's decision for blue is positive and smart, also now well maintained, so, good for Dover.
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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Simon, you read this stuff with your head outside the window? 'Cause I'm sure the chewing gum isn't on your office floor - plenty on the pavement though
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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I am astounded that someone has the audacity to write such tosh as I have just read from a DDC Councillor and she wonders why we have little respect for some DDC representatives.
All this because of a bit of blue paint that might not be there if DDC had maintained the bollards etc properly.
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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jan its a load of bollards. sorry had to get it out of my system.
Guest 782- Registered: 4 Oct 2012
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I read it on my phone, whilst walking to my next appointment, whilst AT WORK!
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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yesterday am,got talking to an American couple well you could have knoched me down with a feather for what they came out with.they both said that dover was a nice town.having gone home to have lay down in dark room fully recoverd I went for a stroll along the sea front and pier,where I bumped into an Australian couple,and guess what .they said the same thing as the americans .
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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had that experience many times brian, people comment on how friendly and helpful the locals are compared to other stops on their itinerary.
Guest 697- Registered: 13 Apr 2010
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Firstly as I have been mentioned in dispatches (!) I think I should make it clear that I post here as a resident and the views expressed are my own.
Secondly, I am not surprised at all that Dover is seen in a positive light. Like most towns and cities there's always room for improvement, but as a port town, I like to think we give a warm welcome to visitors and the town has much to commend it.
I helped some cruise passengers a couple of weeks who were waiting for a bus that wasn't going to arrive!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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i never knew you were with the council kevin, mind you we are all tainted in some way.
on a more serious note i can only remember the late and much missed ken baker being a ddc officer and member here.
ken's knowledge of the natural world and classic cars was unmatched as were the photographs he took.
http://www.dover.uk.com/forums/dover-forum/large-red-damselflyGuest 697- Registered: 13 Apr 2010
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Certainly don't feel "tainted", Howard. Proud to have been associated with all the organisations I have worked for in both the public and private sectors.
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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Having just been down town around the Town Hall, I thought I'd take a look at the blue paint reported on the roof thereof earlier in this thread.
Are you serious Sue or have you become an internet troll? It is undercoat and clearly so. It does not match the shade of blue used by the DTC for the street furniture.
Guest 782- Registered: 4 Oct 2012
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Are these the well maintained and immacualtely looked after black posts, oh and a bin, in your charge Sue?
Maybe they could be blue too?
