Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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If he can afford to rent in London he can afford to drive to Canterbury W or Ramsgate and pick up the hi-speed service there.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Guest 1266- Registered: 8 May 2014
- Posts: 381
Probably more suited for Deal and Sandwich commuters (1h 40min - 1h 30min) although some Dover commuters have been going via Ramsgate. Arguments about who will pay for fixing the line look set to continue for quite a while before any real work can be done. Add the problems with the roads into Dover and a worsening economy it could get interesting regarding DTIZ.
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
and more clogged up than normal.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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- Posts: 23,940
Guest 664- Registered: 23 Mar 2008
- Posts: 1,039
The pale blue double decker I caught this morning seemed to be leaking disle fume into the lower deck. I was siting in the rear half. I reported it to the driver but i would advise anyone affected by such things and using that vehicle to sit on the top deck or towards the front of the lower deck.
i am concened about the delays. I hope it does not drag on endlessly so that everyone becomes resigned to it and it becomes an excuse to close this most expensive stretch of track.
If it's being delayed by wrangling between power-crazed egotists that is unforgivable. Dover suffers enough from that mentality as it is.
Guest 664- Registered: 23 Mar 2008
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The pale blue double decker I caught this morning seemed to be leaking diesel fumes into the lower deck. I was siting in the rear half. I reported it to the driver but i would advise anyone affected by such things and using that vehicle to sit on the top deck or towards the front of the lower deck.
i am concerned about the delays. I hope it does not drag on endlessly so that everyone becomes resigned to it and it becomes an excuse to close this most expensive stretch of track.
If it's being delayed by wrangling between power-crazed egotists that is unforgivable. Dover suffers enough from that mentality as it is.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Network Rail have been quiet lately and very little in the way of complaints on social media so maybe people are getting resigned it. The train company is getting a bashing too.
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/southeastern-second-worst-in-britain-69910/Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,706
To be fair to Southeastern, generally the journey is acceptable - the bus leaves on time, the drivers tend to stick to the same route, the morning buses get to Folkestone with ample time to catch the connecting service, the majority of which are now running to time. the return journey works equally ok - it is weeks since a train was late enough to claim "delay repay" and other than some minor inconveniences due to the TAP the bus is ok, even if they are a little worse for wear.
There is little in the way of practical or sensible alternatives or options so we have all gritted our teeth, put on our stiff upper lip and got on with it - doesnt mean we like it, accept it or are happy with it.
As for the engineers I hear on the QT that they are examining the costs and time for two options - repair or complete rebuild. Our local MPs are making noises around preferring the former whereas every rail user I talk to wants the latter even though it will mean we are inconvenienced for longer.
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Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,551
Last Friday on the TV news our MP was saying that he was hoping for a quick fix to get the line open, and then carry out a more permanent repair after that.
Guest 1266- Registered: 8 May 2014
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Unfortunately there does seem a mentality in Dover that we must just get on with it and not complain too much. Unlike the rest of Kent who are lining up to take a swing at Southeastern. It's interesting that all the meetings with MP, rail operator and Network Rail have been held in Deal because they are shouting louder. As long as people are happy to use the buses there is no urgency and the long game of 'you have managed this long, lets just close it' solution will come to fruition.
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Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,706
Just because people in Dover are not making a public show does not for a minute mean that we are not lobbying our MP, Network Rail or Southeastern, the quiet subtle approach often garners better results, better quality information etc.
No one is happy with the situation but if you choose to have that view...it does sit nicely with the glass half view of many on here that its all over bar the shouting - the reality is a lot further from the truth.
But what do I know...
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Speaking as a non rail user I would think that it would be better to do a proper rebuild despite the longer wait. A patch up job that only lasts a year or two would end up with the section of line closed permanently.
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,706
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Interesting bit of history of the line unfortunately incomplete in places because of records not being very detailed.
http://www.dover-express.co.uk/history-closed-line-Dover-Folkestone-taking-long/story-28663263-detail/story.htmlKarlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,551
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,883
Just looking at the state of the sea wall it was fairly obvious the work would take a long time.
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- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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Guest 1266- Registered: 8 May 2014
- Posts: 381
The train operator has been told to expect at least 18 months before running services again but that obviously depends if the govt agree to the cost of the rebuild.
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