howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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should be a good freebie for the delegates, besides nothing can be proven either way.
even if it turned out to be climate change it doesn't mean that it is man/woman made.
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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Clever idiots.
Pound to a penny says that they will blame man-made climate change.
If so, I'd love to see the data for their conclusion.
Imagine it eh? - It'll be like a pub full of middle aged blokes holding forth under the chairmanship of some ecoloon from the met office.
The thing is what is so urgent that they have to convene an "emergency meeting".
Talk about bedwetting.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Don't worry. Ed Miliband will promise an end to climatic variability in the Labour manifesto for 2015. It will be as successful as Gordon Brown legislating against boom and bust.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
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Keith Sansum1
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I'm no expert on climate change, and can see across the country/world there are differing opinions on the causes of climate change.
As a novice just looking in from the outside, I do wonder if the countries such as China and the USA polluting the atmosphere with there industries makes a difference to the overall impact that we are seeing around the ozone layer, or is it just fate?
I'm sure as we have seen over the years we will find scientists from both sides giving strong arguments both ways.
We can only hope those that say we don't have such a problem that is being pushed upon us, have got it right
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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# 65........or are they in denial mode ?
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Reg
You may well be correct, will we ever know before it's to late(if in fact that is the case)
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Courtesy Independent..............
Stand by for another DECADE of wet summers, say meteorologists
Climate change may be intensifying the natural cycle and may prolong it, says expert, but it is
too early to say
Britain faces ten more years of wet summers, after the Met Office revealed the country is in the
midst of a rare weather cycle that increases the prospect of summer rain and could last for two decades.
Since the cycle began in 2007, six of the past seven summers have been wetter than average - with
last summer seeing the heaviest rainfall in a century at almost double the seasonal average.
Although the cycle does not guarantee wet summers, it "loads the dice" in favour of increased rainfall
each year, making wet summers more likely for the next five to ten years. The prediction is based on the
last two times the cycle - known as Atlantic multi-decadal oscillation - occurred, in the 1950s and
early 1960s and in the 1880s.
"This is a really new and exciting finding," said Professor Stephen Belcher, head of the Met Office
Hadley Centre, of the research by the University of Reading.
"Up to ten years from now the cycle could persist and therefore there is a higher possibility of
wet summers," he added.
Climate change may be intensifying the natural cycle and may prolong it, but it is too early to say
for certain, Professor Belcher said.
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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..........otherwise known as the met office having a jumping the shark moment.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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could.......may......too early to say......higher possibility.... Professor Belcher needs advice on a good fence supplier, Keith.
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Barack Obama unveils strict new climate change measures
President brushes off Republican critics and global-warming sceptics with plan of action against
'threat of our time'
Democrats (US)Facing down a recalcitrant US Congress as well as a sceptical American public,
President Barack Obama has unveiled a swathe of measures designed finally to put his
administration's back into tackling global warming, notably imposing strict new curbs on carbon
dioxide emissions from electricity-generating plants.
The measures, which can be implemented without recourse to any votes by Congress, had been
widely expected and were harshly criticised by the president's Republican critics even before he
laid them out in a speech at Georgetown University in Washington DC.
"The question is not whether we need to act, the overwhelming judgment of science, of chemistry
and physics, millions of measurements have put all that to rest," Mr Obama said, dismissing those
still debating the cause of warming.
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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.........and you really trust this idiot?
I have a bridge to sell you.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Peter
If we get it wrong(which may or may not be correct)
our children/grand children would never forgive us
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Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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Keith our grandchildren will sit down next to the bed we occupy in the old folks home and give us all Chinese burns when the nurse isn't looking and whisper in our ears "You idiots didn't you know you were being conned and left us with unaffordable energy bills, blackouts and the exodus of companies from the UK overseas?".
That is what they will say in the same way that they will rightfully condemn our generation for letting politicians run rings around our tiny little minds turning us into gullible little fools that we all are.
I don't blame them.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Try talking to the children PhilipP sometime you might find out who the idiot is....................
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Obviously there are two strong lobbies for and against these ideas,
As I say im concerned that if we do nowt, and get it wrong, we may not be the losers, but generations to come will be
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Brian Dixon
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kieth,its called for and against.but we are all in it together.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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If we get it wrong it has a long term affect on future generations
if its incorrect there is no bearing on future generations
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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one for philip to ponder(or stew) on, what i find confusing is the article refers to "diktats" from the eu about coal fired power stations but my understanding is that our german friends are building new ones.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2349719/Blackout-alert-Britain-left-dark-2015-government-slow-replace-old-coal-power-stations.html